Tired

  • Post
    Lisa13
    Participant

      As most of you know, October 31st was my 12 week scan after ipi.  I had a 50% reduction of lung mets and some disappeared. I also had 2 that grew a tiny bit and we're not sure if it's inflammation as of yet. Anyway, I also have 2 new brain mets which get gamma knifed on Tuesday.

      As most of you know, October 31st was my 12 week scan after ipi.  I had a 50% reduction of lung mets and some disappeared. I also had 2 that grew a tiny bit and we're not sure if it's inflammation as of yet. Anyway, I also have 2 new brain mets which get gamma knifed on Tuesday.

      So, this week was a pretty emotional week for me. I've been really tired all week which is unlike me. I used to get tired around noon and it lasted an hour, but now, I feel tired most of the day.  I know Yervoy can cause fatigue – has anyone experienced this after treatment with ipi??  What else could be the reason I'm so tired?  Other than this, I've got absolutely nothing going on symptom wise.

      Any help would be greatly appreciated.

      Lisa

    Viewing 14 reply threads
    • Replies
        mombase
        Participant

          Hi, Lisa!

          Well, I have to admit that some days I am so tired, I don't even get out of my PJ's! I just make sure the ones I have on are fit for company in case someone comes to the door. It just comes and goes in cycles. Sometimes I feel like a million bucks and it is very easy to believe that there is not a thing wrong with me. I just plan accordingly each day. I am very fortunate that I do not have to work (I don't think I could anyway) due to the generosity of my sister who provides shelter and utilities. My treatments are provided by the VA, which is such a blessing. And my teenage daughter has grown up feeling grateful for the smallest things.

          I don't think this roller coaster ride is easy to deal with physically or emotionally, both of which can cause fatigue. I used to fight it and now I am in more of an acceptance mode. Last night I went to a concert nad had a blast. Today I rest!

          Have a wonderful rest of your weekend, Lisa!

          Cristy, Stage IV

            Lisa13
            Participant

              Hi Christy,

              Sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued on Yervoy.  I didn't have very much fatigue at all during my treatment, so I managed quite well and was able to keep up with my 2 year old daughter 🙂

              I think I may be coming down with a cold which would explain why I feel tired. I'm sneezing and have a stuffy/runny nose which definately feels like a cold/allergies.

              Lisa

              Lisa13
              Participant

                Hi Christy,

                Sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued on Yervoy.  I didn't have very much fatigue at all during my treatment, so I managed quite well and was able to keep up with my 2 year old daughter 🙂

                I think I may be coming down with a cold which would explain why I feel tired. I'm sneezing and have a stuffy/runny nose which definately feels like a cold/allergies.

                Lisa

                lhaley
                Participant

                  Lisa,

                  I was thinking I had a sinus issue and teeth problems.  That was the hint to me about the brain met.  Never thought this was a major problem.  

                  I have found like the article that was linked that someone had linked.  I am feeling the fatigue when I overdue.  Yesterday we had a house full of company and have definitely paid for this today.  Now my SRS is done and am on steroids so that could be part of the issues.  Emotionally also can make your tired.  

                  Linda

                  lhaley
                  Participant

                    Lisa,

                    I was thinking I had a sinus issue and teeth problems.  That was the hint to me about the brain met.  Never thought this was a major problem.  

                    I have found like the article that was linked that someone had linked.  I am feeling the fatigue when I overdue.  Yesterday we had a house full of company and have definitely paid for this today.  Now my SRS is done and am on steroids so that could be part of the issues.  Emotionally also can make your tired.  

                    Linda

                    lhaley
                    Participant

                      Lisa,

                      I was thinking I had a sinus issue and teeth problems.  That was the hint to me about the brain met.  Never thought this was a major problem.  

                      I have found like the article that was linked that someone had linked.  I am feeling the fatigue when I overdue.  Yesterday we had a house full of company and have definitely paid for this today.  Now my SRS is done and am on steroids so that could be part of the issues.  Emotionally also can make your tired.  

                      Linda

                      Lisa13
                      Participant

                        Hi Christy,

                        Sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued on Yervoy.  I didn't have very much fatigue at all during my treatment, so I managed quite well and was able to keep up with my 2 year old daughter 🙂

                        I think I may be coming down with a cold which would explain why I feel tired. I'm sneezing and have a stuffy/runny nose which definately feels like a cold/allergies.

                        Lisa

                      mombase
                      Participant

                        Hi, Lisa!

                        Well, I have to admit that some days I am so tired, I don't even get out of my PJ's! I just make sure the ones I have on are fit for company in case someone comes to the door. It just comes and goes in cycles. Sometimes I feel like a million bucks and it is very easy to believe that there is not a thing wrong with me. I just plan accordingly each day. I am very fortunate that I do not have to work (I don't think I could anyway) due to the generosity of my sister who provides shelter and utilities. My treatments are provided by the VA, which is such a blessing. And my teenage daughter has grown up feeling grateful for the smallest things.

                        I don't think this roller coaster ride is easy to deal with physically or emotionally, both of which can cause fatigue. I used to fight it and now I am in more of an acceptance mode. Last night I went to a concert nad had a blast. Today I rest!

                        Have a wonderful rest of your weekend, Lisa!

                        Cristy, Stage IV

                        mombase
                        Participant

                          Hi, Lisa!

                          Well, I have to admit that some days I am so tired, I don't even get out of my PJ's! I just make sure the ones I have on are fit for company in case someone comes to the door. It just comes and goes in cycles. Sometimes I feel like a million bucks and it is very easy to believe that there is not a thing wrong with me. I just plan accordingly each day. I am very fortunate that I do not have to work (I don't think I could anyway) due to the generosity of my sister who provides shelter and utilities. My treatments are provided by the VA, which is such a blessing. And my teenage daughter has grown up feeling grateful for the smallest things.

                          I don't think this roller coaster ride is easy to deal with physically or emotionally, both of which can cause fatigue. I used to fight it and now I am in more of an acceptance mode. Last night I went to a concert nad had a blast. Today I rest!

                          Have a wonderful rest of your weekend, Lisa!

                          Cristy, Stage IV

                          kylez
                          Participant

                            Lisa,

                            It took me awhile to digest is that I'm both a melanoma patient, but subsequently also a brain tumor patient. Which you're seeing as you shuttle between the oncology and neurosurgery departments. It means two different sources of possible symptoms, including fatigue. National Brain Tumor Society has some info on fatigue from the neurological side. After having had several neurosurgical interventions, I've needed to really take it easy and not let myself get pushed into doing more than I should. I also had IPI so it's hard to separate what the effects might be from the two, but in my case I think that's from the multiple interventions. But it's something to keep in mind anyway as another reason to try to take it easy.

                            I don't know if youve seen this abstract about IPI benefits for brain tuomr patients: Outcomes of Melanoma Brain Metastasis Management with Gamma Knife Radiosurgery +/- Ipilimumab. In that context your response to IPI so far is something to "put in the bank".

                            – Kyle

                              Lisa13
                              Participant

                                Kyle,

                                Thanks so much for sending me this link. I had a read through it and it definately makes me feel hopeful. 

                                How did you manage on ipi?x

                                Lisa

                                Lisa13
                                Participant

                                  Kyle,

                                  Thanks so much for sending me this link. I had a read through it and it definately makes me feel hopeful. 

                                  How did you manage on ipi?x

                                  Lisa

                                  Lisa13
                                  Participant

                                    Kyle,

                                    I now know that you mean when you go from having melanoma to brain mets as well.  As much as it sucks, I just keep thinking that we have double the amount of people looking after us 🙂

                                    I wish you the best of luck!

                                    Lisa

                                    Lisa13
                                    Participant

                                      Kyle,

                                      I now know that you mean when you go from having melanoma to brain mets as well.  As much as it sucks, I just keep thinking that we have double the amount of people looking after us 🙂

                                      I wish you the best of luck!

                                      Lisa

                                      Lisa13
                                      Participant

                                        Kyle,

                                        I now know that you mean when you go from having melanoma to brain mets as well.  As much as it sucks, I just keep thinking that we have double the amount of people looking after us 🙂

                                        I wish you the best of luck!

                                        Lisa

                                        kylez
                                        Participant

                                          The jury's still out for me. My main goal for now is to make it without incident to my next PET and MRI scan appointments in a month. Then see what I get back. Then the time should be right to know if I'm responding or not.

                                          -Kyle

                                          kylez
                                          Participant

                                            The jury's still out for me. My main goal for now is to make it without incident to my next PET and MRI scan appointments in a month. Then see what I get back. Then the time should be right to know if I'm responding or not.

                                            -Kyle

                                            kylez
                                            Participant

                                              The jury's still out for me. My main goal for now is to make it without incident to my next PET and MRI scan appointments in a month. Then see what I get back. Then the time should be right to know if I'm responding or not.

                                              -Kyle

                                              Lisa13
                                              Participant

                                                Kyle,

                                                Thanks so much for sending me this link. I had a read through it and it definately makes me feel hopeful. 

                                                How did you manage on ipi?x

                                                Lisa

                                              kylez
                                              Participant

                                                Lisa,

                                                It took me awhile to digest is that I'm both a melanoma patient, but subsequently also a brain tumor patient. Which you're seeing as you shuttle between the oncology and neurosurgery departments. It means two different sources of possible symptoms, including fatigue. National Brain Tumor Society has some info on fatigue from the neurological side. After having had several neurosurgical interventions, I've needed to really take it easy and not let myself get pushed into doing more than I should. I also had IPI so it's hard to separate what the effects might be from the two, but in my case I think that's from the multiple interventions. But it's something to keep in mind anyway as another reason to try to take it easy.

                                                I don't know if youve seen this abstract about IPI benefits for brain tuomr patients: Outcomes of Melanoma Brain Metastasis Management with Gamma Knife Radiosurgery +/- Ipilimumab. In that context your response to IPI so far is something to "put in the bank".

                                                – Kyle

                                                kylez
                                                Participant

                                                  Lisa,

                                                  It took me awhile to digest is that I'm both a melanoma patient, but subsequently also a brain tumor patient. Which you're seeing as you shuttle between the oncology and neurosurgery departments. It means two different sources of possible symptoms, including fatigue. National Brain Tumor Society has some info on fatigue from the neurological side. After having had several neurosurgical interventions, I've needed to really take it easy and not let myself get pushed into doing more than I should. I also had IPI so it's hard to separate what the effects might be from the two, but in my case I think that's from the multiple interventions. But it's something to keep in mind anyway as another reason to try to take it easy.

                                                  I don't know if youve seen this abstract about IPI benefits for brain tuomr patients: Outcomes of Melanoma Brain Metastasis Management with Gamma Knife Radiosurgery +/- Ipilimumab. In that context your response to IPI so far is something to "put in the bank".

                                                  – Kyle

                                                  FormerCaregiver
                                                  Participant

                                                    Lisa, tiredness or fatigue can have a number of causes that may be physical, emotional
                                                    or medical in nature.

                                                    As you have had an emotional week, it is certainly possible that at least some of your
                                                    tiredness could be caused by stress. From:
                                                    http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Fatigue_explained
                                                    "Anxiety and stress – a person who is chronically anxious or stressed keeps their body
                                                    in overdrive. The constant flooding of adrenaline exhausts the body, and fatigue sets
                                                    in."

                                                    I suppose that I have a special interest in this general area because of my own
                                                    experience with post-viral fatigue syndrome.

                                                    Wishing you all the best for Tuesday.

                                                    Frank from Australia

                                                    FormerCaregiver
                                                    Participant

                                                      Lisa, tiredness or fatigue can have a number of causes that may be physical, emotional
                                                      or medical in nature.

                                                      As you have had an emotional week, it is certainly possible that at least some of your
                                                      tiredness could be caused by stress. From:
                                                      http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Fatigue_explained
                                                      "Anxiety and stress – a person who is chronically anxious or stressed keeps their body
                                                      in overdrive. The constant flooding of adrenaline exhausts the body, and fatigue sets
                                                      in."

                                                      I suppose that I have a special interest in this general area because of my own
                                                      experience with post-viral fatigue syndrome.

                                                      Wishing you all the best for Tuesday.

                                                      Frank from Australia

                                                      FormerCaregiver
                                                      Participant

                                                        Lisa, tiredness or fatigue can have a number of causes that may be physical, emotional
                                                        or medical in nature.

                                                        As you have had an emotional week, it is certainly possible that at least some of your
                                                        tiredness could be caused by stress. From:
                                                        http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Fatigue_explained
                                                        "Anxiety and stress – a person who is chronically anxious or stressed keeps their body
                                                        in overdrive. The constant flooding of adrenaline exhausts the body, and fatigue sets
                                                        in."

                                                        I suppose that I have a special interest in this general area because of my own
                                                        experience with post-viral fatigue syndrome.

                                                        Wishing you all the best for Tuesday.

                                                        Frank from Australia

                                                        King
                                                        Participant

                                                          Lisa,

                                                           

                                                          I would be surprised if you weren't tired.  You've had a very emotional week or so dealing with scan results, research, treatment decisions. appointments not to mention keeping up with a 2 year old.  It very well could be the beginning of a cold (yuk) but I think stress would have to play a part in this.  It wouldn't be normal not to be stressed right now.  One day at a time and stay positive.  Form your posts,  you sound like a very positive person which will really help you with the challenge ahead.

                                                          Stay Strong

                                                          King

                                                          Stage IV 7/05 Liver mets

                                                          King
                                                          Participant

                                                            Lisa,

                                                             

                                                            I would be surprised if you weren't tired.  You've had a very emotional week or so dealing with scan results, research, treatment decisions. appointments not to mention keeping up with a 2 year old.  It very well could be the beginning of a cold (yuk) but I think stress would have to play a part in this.  It wouldn't be normal not to be stressed right now.  One day at a time and stay positive.  Form your posts,  you sound like a very positive person which will really help you with the challenge ahead.

                                                            Stay Strong

                                                            King

                                                            Stage IV 7/05 Liver mets

                                                            King
                                                            Participant

                                                              Lisa,

                                                               

                                                              I would be surprised if you weren't tired.  You've had a very emotional week or so dealing with scan results, research, treatment decisions. appointments not to mention keeping up with a 2 year old.  It very well could be the beginning of a cold (yuk) but I think stress would have to play a part in this.  It wouldn't be normal not to be stressed right now.  One day at a time and stay positive.  Form your posts,  you sound like a very positive person which will really help you with the challenge ahead.

                                                              Stay Strong

                                                              King

                                                              Stage IV 7/05 Liver mets

                                                              MichaelFL
                                                              Participant

                                                                Had a CBC recently? (Complete blood count)

                                                                What are your red and white blood cell count?

                                                                A complete blood count measures the amounts of three different types of cells in your blood:

                                                                • Red blood cells make up the largest component of the blood, and transport oxygen from the lungs throughout the rest of the body. They help provide energy and keep organs and tissues healthy. Hemoglobin is the protein contained in red blood cells that makes blood red. Hematocrit is the percentage of red cells in the bloodstream. If your hemoglobin or hematocrit level is too low, it is possible that you have anemia, which may cause you to feel tired or weak. Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, increased heart rate, difficulty staying warm, pale skin and dizziness or lightheadedness.
                                                                • White blood cells provide protection for the body against invasion from bacteria and viruses, and therefore, play a key role in the body’s immune system. Neutrophils, are a specific type of white blood cell. If your absolute neutrophil count (ANC) falls below normal range, you may have neutropenia, or a low white cell count, which can lower the body’s ability to fight infection.
                                                                • Platelets help the blood clot. They line the inside of the blood vessels and flow through the vessels as well. If you have low platelet counts, you may be at increased risk for bleeding or bruising.
                                                                MichaelFL
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Had a CBC recently? (Complete blood count)

                                                                  What are your red and white blood cell count?

                                                                  A complete blood count measures the amounts of three different types of cells in your blood:

                                                                  • Red blood cells make up the largest component of the blood, and transport oxygen from the lungs throughout the rest of the body. They help provide energy and keep organs and tissues healthy. Hemoglobin is the protein contained in red blood cells that makes blood red. Hematocrit is the percentage of red cells in the bloodstream. If your hemoglobin or hematocrit level is too low, it is possible that you have anemia, which may cause you to feel tired or weak. Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, increased heart rate, difficulty staying warm, pale skin and dizziness or lightheadedness.
                                                                  • White blood cells provide protection for the body against invasion from bacteria and viruses, and therefore, play a key role in the body’s immune system. Neutrophils, are a specific type of white blood cell. If your absolute neutrophil count (ANC) falls below normal range, you may have neutropenia, or a low white cell count, which can lower the body’s ability to fight infection.
                                                                  • Platelets help the blood clot. They line the inside of the blood vessels and flow through the vessels as well. If you have low platelet counts, you may be at increased risk for bleeding or bruising.
                                                                  MichaelFL
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Had a CBC recently? (Complete blood count)

                                                                    What are your red and white blood cell count?

                                                                    A complete blood count measures the amounts of three different types of cells in your blood:

                                                                    • Red blood cells make up the largest component of the blood, and transport oxygen from the lungs throughout the rest of the body. They help provide energy and keep organs and tissues healthy. Hemoglobin is the protein contained in red blood cells that makes blood red. Hematocrit is the percentage of red cells in the bloodstream. If your hemoglobin or hematocrit level is too low, it is possible that you have anemia, which may cause you to feel tired or weak. Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, increased heart rate, difficulty staying warm, pale skin and dizziness or lightheadedness.
                                                                    • White blood cells provide protection for the body against invasion from bacteria and viruses, and therefore, play a key role in the body’s immune system. Neutrophils, are a specific type of white blood cell. If your absolute neutrophil count (ANC) falls below normal range, you may have neutropenia, or a low white cell count, which can lower the body’s ability to fight infection.
                                                                    • Platelets help the blood clot. They line the inside of the blood vessels and flow through the vessels as well. If you have low platelet counts, you may be at increased risk for bleeding or bruising.
                                                                      Lisa13
                                                                      Participant

                                                                        I no longer feel tired. I woke up in the middle of the night with a cold and definately feel it this morning.  It's not too bad of a cold and I'm tolerating it quite well, but with the stress, this was bound to happen. 

                                                                        I went to the hospital this morning for another brain MRI, talk with the radiologist and a bit of education on Gamma Knife.  Big day tomorrow – have to be there at 6:15am for gamma knife!

                                                                        Lisa

                                                                        Lisa13
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          I no longer feel tired. I woke up in the middle of the night with a cold and definately feel it this morning.  It's not too bad of a cold and I'm tolerating it quite well, but with the stress, this was bound to happen. 

                                                                          I went to the hospital this morning for another brain MRI, talk with the radiologist and a bit of education on Gamma Knife.  Big day tomorrow – have to be there at 6:15am for gamma knife!

                                                                          Lisa

                                                                          Lisa13
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            I no longer feel tired. I woke up in the middle of the night with a cold and definately feel it this morning.  It's not too bad of a cold and I'm tolerating it quite well, but with the stress, this was bound to happen. 

                                                                            I went to the hospital this morning for another brain MRI, talk with the radiologist and a bit of education on Gamma Knife.  Big day tomorrow – have to be there at 6:15am for gamma knife!

                                                                            Lisa

                                                                            kylez
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Lisa, have a great day tomorrow, I hope it goes really well for you.

                                                                              kylez
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Lisa, have a great day tomorrow, I hope it goes really well for you.

                                                                                kylez
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  Lisa, have a great day tomorrow, I hope it goes really well for you.

                                                                                  MichaelFL
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    All other things aside, glad you think it is just a cold.

                                                                                    Good luck tomorrow.

                                                                                    MichaelFL
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      All other things aside, glad you think it is just a cold.

                                                                                      Good luck tomorrow.

                                                                                      MichaelFL
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        All other things aside, glad you think it is just a cold.

                                                                                        Good luck tomorrow.

                                                                                  Viewing 14 reply threads
                                                                                  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
                                                                                  About the MRF Patient Forum

                                                                                  The MRF Patient Forum is the oldest and largest online community of people affected by melanoma. It is designed to provide peer support and information to caregivers, patients, family and friends. There is no better place to discuss different parts of your journey with this cancer and find the friends and support resources to make that journey more bearable.

                                                                                  The information on the forum is open and accessible to everyone. To add a new topic or to post a reply, you must be a registered user. Please note that you will be able to post both topics and replies anonymously even though you are logged in. All posts must abide by MRF posting policies.

                                                                                  Popular Topics