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- September 26, 2013 at 7:19 pm
So had PET scan and Brain MRI yesterday. The brain MRI was clear but PET showed activity in right lung mid lobe. Surgery was scheduled for Monday they now pushed until Tuesday so I can do a CT of chest tomrrow. Surgical oncologist nurse didn't give me a ton of info other than we need to do CT of Chest. From there we'll determine whether or not a biopsy is required, it's nothing and/or we'll watch & wait. I know PET Scans can be sensitive but anyone out there have any experience or information they can share? What is likelihood that is nothing? Why didn't any nodes light up? I'm not saying…really praying it's not Melanoma…but how would it just show up in lung. I know progression of melanoma is tricky….just throws me for a loop. I also wonder why they just don't go in and do a biopsy?I just has scan at end of Feb…beginning of March-all clear. LDH which onc told me would help measure organ metastasis was perfect just weeks ago. Confused and frustrated again. Guess I better get used to it.
Josh
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- September 26, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Oh, Josh! I was so in hopes the scans today would be unequivocably negative. I don't have any experience with the lung CT scan, but I will pray that this is nothing!
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- September 26, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Oh, Josh! I was so in hopes the scans today would be unequivocably negative. I don't have any experience with the lung CT scan, but I will pray that this is nothing!
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- September 26, 2013 at 10:10 pm
Oh, Josh! I was so in hopes the scans today would be unequivocably negative. I don't have any experience with the lung CT scan, but I will pray that this is nothing!
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- September 26, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Hey Josh,
CT scan of chest/lungs is nothing, it goes quickly just like an xray. I believe they used contrast on me so the cancer would light up. Surgery is the best option for you at this point. If it is Melanoma you should get on some type of immonotherapy, maybe Ipi (Yervoy). If this is the only spot and you can remove it you will be back to NED. I didn't have that option since my melanoma attacked all lobes of my lungs.
To do a biopsy would be just as invasive as just removing it I would think. As far as LDH levels I don't believe that is a good indicator. Are you seeing a melanoma specialist? I can't remember. When they remove the met be sure they check it for BRAF. That is if it is melanoma. I'm hoping it's nothing but a false positive on the PET scan and the CT scan would verify that.
All my best to you Josh,
Denise
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- September 26, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Hey Josh,
CT scan of chest/lungs is nothing, it goes quickly just like an xray. I believe they used contrast on me so the cancer would light up. Surgery is the best option for you at this point. If it is Melanoma you should get on some type of immonotherapy, maybe Ipi (Yervoy). If this is the only spot and you can remove it you will be back to NED. I didn't have that option since my melanoma attacked all lobes of my lungs.
To do a biopsy would be just as invasive as just removing it I would think. As far as LDH levels I don't believe that is a good indicator. Are you seeing a melanoma specialist? I can't remember. When they remove the met be sure they check it for BRAF. That is if it is melanoma. I'm hoping it's nothing but a false positive on the PET scan and the CT scan would verify that.
All my best to you Josh,
Denise
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- September 26, 2013 at 10:35 pm
Hey Josh,
CT scan of chest/lungs is nothing, it goes quickly just like an xray. I believe they used contrast on me so the cancer would light up. Surgery is the best option for you at this point. If it is Melanoma you should get on some type of immonotherapy, maybe Ipi (Yervoy). If this is the only spot and you can remove it you will be back to NED. I didn't have that option since my melanoma attacked all lobes of my lungs.
To do a biopsy would be just as invasive as just removing it I would think. As far as LDH levels I don't believe that is a good indicator. Are you seeing a melanoma specialist? I can't remember. When they remove the met be sure they check it for BRAF. That is if it is melanoma. I'm hoping it's nothing but a false positive on the PET scan and the CT scan would verify that.
All my best to you Josh,
Denise
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- September 27, 2013 at 12:12 am
LDH CAN be an indication of organ damage but it isn't a given. I know a woman who had 70% of her liver involved and still had a normal LDH. LDH is a useful indicator if it changes, but even that isn't an indication of metastasis. It's a tool, but not much more. It's not a guarantee of anything.
Lung nodules are common… let me rephrase that – BENIGN lung nodules are common. PET scans can easily have false positives and even if the CT sees something in the lung, it doesn't mean it has to be melanoma. It's much more common to do "watch and wait" with a lung nodule than an immediate biopsy. Do a scan in 3 months and monitor for any growth. No growth? Watch and wait again. Growth? Lung biopsies can be difficult depending on the location. I know for my father, his lung biopsy was the worst thing he did treatment-wise for his cancer. (He had stage II melanoma at the time but the lung nodule presented more like lung cancer – so the biopsy was a bit more important to determine the type of cancer. His was lung cancer).
As for how this could just show up in the lungs, that does happen. Probably somewhere in the 10% range, the melanoma bypasses the lymph vessels and goes through the blood vessels. So you can have organ involvement without having lymph node involvement. Again, this doesn't mean your lung nodule is melanoma, but it can happen.
It's easy to be frustrated by everything, but sometimes there isn't an immediate answer and trying to learn how to relax while waiting could be a virtue. ๐
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- September 27, 2013 at 1:02 am
HAHA!!! Not laughjing at you Janner but at your last advice/comment ,"It's easy to be frustrated by everything, but sometimes there isn't an immediate answer and trying to learn how to relax while waiting could be a virtue. ๐ ". My mother in law said that to me almost verbatim. I'm working on that.
They said it could be nothing. I haven't had a PET scan in over 2 years but numerous CT Scans including 6 months ago which showed no pulmonary leisons. I was so just hoping to move to surgery and have SNLB to see if there was lymph node involvment. Guess time will tell. I appreciate your response Janner and honestly look forward to them as you are clearly educated and provide informed responses.
So if it passes the lymphatic system and goes through blood vessels, systemic tretament as well as surgery is a must? Does either hold a better prognosis? Sorry thining ahead…mabe I'll take your advice and relax until I get results and deal with what ever cards I'm dealt.
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- September 27, 2013 at 1:02 am
HAHA!!! Not laughjing at you Janner but at your last advice/comment ,"It's easy to be frustrated by everything, but sometimes there isn't an immediate answer and trying to learn how to relax while waiting could be a virtue. ๐ ". My mother in law said that to me almost verbatim. I'm working on that.
They said it could be nothing. I haven't had a PET scan in over 2 years but numerous CT Scans including 6 months ago which showed no pulmonary leisons. I was so just hoping to move to surgery and have SNLB to see if there was lymph node involvment. Guess time will tell. I appreciate your response Janner and honestly look forward to them as you are clearly educated and provide informed responses.
So if it passes the lymphatic system and goes through blood vessels, systemic tretament as well as surgery is a must? Does either hold a better prognosis? Sorry thining ahead…mabe I'll take your advice and relax until I get results and deal with what ever cards I'm dealt.
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- September 27, 2013 at 1:02 am
HAHA!!! Not laughjing at you Janner but at your last advice/comment ,"It's easy to be frustrated by everything, but sometimes there isn't an immediate answer and trying to learn how to relax while waiting could be a virtue. ๐ ". My mother in law said that to me almost verbatim. I'm working on that.
They said it could be nothing. I haven't had a PET scan in over 2 years but numerous CT Scans including 6 months ago which showed no pulmonary leisons. I was so just hoping to move to surgery and have SNLB to see if there was lymph node involvment. Guess time will tell. I appreciate your response Janner and honestly look forward to them as you are clearly educated and provide informed responses.
So if it passes the lymphatic system and goes through blood vessels, systemic tretament as well as surgery is a must? Does either hold a better prognosis? Sorry thining ahead…mabe I'll take your advice and relax until I get results and deal with what ever cards I'm dealt.
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- September 27, 2013 at 12:12 am
LDH CAN be an indication of organ damage but it isn't a given. I know a woman who had 70% of her liver involved and still had a normal LDH. LDH is a useful indicator if it changes, but even that isn't an indication of metastasis. It's a tool, but not much more. It's not a guarantee of anything.
Lung nodules are common… let me rephrase that – BENIGN lung nodules are common. PET scans can easily have false positives and even if the CT sees something in the lung, it doesn't mean it has to be melanoma. It's much more common to do "watch and wait" with a lung nodule than an immediate biopsy. Do a scan in 3 months and monitor for any growth. No growth? Watch and wait again. Growth? Lung biopsies can be difficult depending on the location. I know for my father, his lung biopsy was the worst thing he did treatment-wise for his cancer. (He had stage II melanoma at the time but the lung nodule presented more like lung cancer – so the biopsy was a bit more important to determine the type of cancer. His was lung cancer).
As for how this could just show up in the lungs, that does happen. Probably somewhere in the 10% range, the melanoma bypasses the lymph vessels and goes through the blood vessels. So you can have organ involvement without having lymph node involvement. Again, this doesn't mean your lung nodule is melanoma, but it can happen.
It's easy to be frustrated by everything, but sometimes there isn't an immediate answer and trying to learn how to relax while waiting could be a virtue. ๐
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- September 27, 2013 at 12:12 am
LDH CAN be an indication of organ damage but it isn't a given. I know a woman who had 70% of her liver involved and still had a normal LDH. LDH is a useful indicator if it changes, but even that isn't an indication of metastasis. It's a tool, but not much more. It's not a guarantee of anything.
Lung nodules are common… let me rephrase that – BENIGN lung nodules are common. PET scans can easily have false positives and even if the CT sees something in the lung, it doesn't mean it has to be melanoma. It's much more common to do "watch and wait" with a lung nodule than an immediate biopsy. Do a scan in 3 months and monitor for any growth. No growth? Watch and wait again. Growth? Lung biopsies can be difficult depending on the location. I know for my father, his lung biopsy was the worst thing he did treatment-wise for his cancer. (He had stage II melanoma at the time but the lung nodule presented more like lung cancer – so the biopsy was a bit more important to determine the type of cancer. His was lung cancer).
As for how this could just show up in the lungs, that does happen. Probably somewhere in the 10% range, the melanoma bypasses the lymph vessels and goes through the blood vessels. So you can have organ involvement without having lymph node involvement. Again, this doesn't mean your lung nodule is melanoma, but it can happen.
It's easy to be frustrated by everything, but sometimes there isn't an immediate answer and trying to learn how to relax while waiting could be a virtue. ๐
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- September 27, 2013 at 12:28 am
Sorry to hear.
PET has false positives but if there is increasing SUV uptake over a cut-off threshold then it is more likely than not mel. SUV uptake greater than 2.5-3.0 is common. More damning if it continues to increase with the folow up scan taken a few minutes later. Very active infection or other metabolic activity can do the same, but mel is notorious for glowing like lights on a Christmas tree. You may have this info on your radiologist report.
I was alarmed when my radiologist used the term "this should represent metastasis", I was hoping he used the word could instead. Nope, he said should, and it was……THERE ARE ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS though. The CT will give better info. Waiting for a few weeks / month or two can determine if there is a tumor doubling time.
You don't always get mel mets via the lymphatics. I am an example of that.
Stage 2A to IV eight years later. SNB was negative even with PCR. Had a back x-ray for other reasons when my lung met was accidently discovered years later. A follow-up PET/CT also found a muscle met in my pectoralis m. It was too small to see on most scans but the PET picked it right up. It was very small.
In the end I am still lucky. Because mel never visited my lymph nodes, I still have all of them! (Minus my SNB). No lymphedema. I am a vet and my SNB was in my right axilla. Most of the bites I have had were to my right arm / hand. Someone was looking out for me.
Anyway, the mel met was confirmed with VATS which removed it, and IL-2 took care of the other. I have been NED for the past 3 years as a result.
If you have to have a met, the lung is probably the best place to have one. Regardless, keep kicking its A$$. Let us know how the CT turns out.
The thing that keeps me from going nuts while waiting for scans and results is to research what to do if it is mel. For me, by having a back up plan or at least the knowledge to discuss it with my docs helps to give me a sense of controlling something I have no control over. I call it constructive stressing versus stewing. I also had a few beers along the way :).
Whishing you the best,
Kim
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- September 27, 2013 at 1:18 am
Kim-
I didn;t get report only a phone call. I was told there was increased activityin mid lobe of right lung that needed further investigation. All I can do is hope that it's nothing…if it is…step up and deal with it. Your story gives hope if in fact I need to. VATS is obviously a surgery technique for lung? I'm really interested in IL-2….that clearly has worked for you. Was it given as adjuvant treatment?
Though it may get me down, I will never let this crap take me out. I find myself getting angry and just wanting to get on with it. Just need to learn…one step at a time. Thanks for response…I'm hoping to get results quick…like tomorrow afternoon but probably Monday. I'll definitely be giving an update. Thanks again!
Josh
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- September 27, 2013 at 4:20 am
I love your attitude Josh, I feel the same way. It can be so frustrating because it;s some serious stuff we're dealing with and we have to wait all the time. After almost a year of going through it I am used to it. I actually denied a PET scan that I was due for because I knew the results.
My Melanoma spread throughout my blood system too. I think it's rare but I've never had any lymph system disease.
All you can do is take it day by day. Don't let it consume you to where you can't enjoy your life, family, and friends. I haven't had a beer in a very long time, sounds good Kim!! I guess what I"m trying to say is keep a positive attitude and don't let the emotional/physchological aspects of Melanoma beat you!!
Hopefully they will have some answers for you tomorrow, if not enjoy your weekend,
All my best to you Josh,
Denise
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- September 27, 2013 at 4:20 am
I love your attitude Josh, I feel the same way. It can be so frustrating because it;s some serious stuff we're dealing with and we have to wait all the time. After almost a year of going through it I am used to it. I actually denied a PET scan that I was due for because I knew the results.
My Melanoma spread throughout my blood system too. I think it's rare but I've never had any lymph system disease.
All you can do is take it day by day. Don't let it consume you to where you can't enjoy your life, family, and friends. I haven't had a beer in a very long time, sounds good Kim!! I guess what I"m trying to say is keep a positive attitude and don't let the emotional/physchological aspects of Melanoma beat you!!
Hopefully they will have some answers for you tomorrow, if not enjoy your weekend,
All my best to you Josh,
Denise
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- September 27, 2013 at 4:20 am
I love your attitude Josh, I feel the same way. It can be so frustrating because it;s some serious stuff we're dealing with and we have to wait all the time. After almost a year of going through it I am used to it. I actually denied a PET scan that I was due for because I knew the results.
My Melanoma spread throughout my blood system too. I think it's rare but I've never had any lymph system disease.
All you can do is take it day by day. Don't let it consume you to where you can't enjoy your life, family, and friends. I haven't had a beer in a very long time, sounds good Kim!! I guess what I"m trying to say is keep a positive attitude and don't let the emotional/physchological aspects of Melanoma beat you!!
Hopefully they will have some answers for you tomorrow, if not enjoy your weekend,
All my best to you Josh,
Denise
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- September 27, 2013 at 1:18 am
Kim-
I didn;t get report only a phone call. I was told there was increased activityin mid lobe of right lung that needed further investigation. All I can do is hope that it's nothing…if it is…step up and deal with it. Your story gives hope if in fact I need to. VATS is obviously a surgery technique for lung? I'm really interested in IL-2….that clearly has worked for you. Was it given as adjuvant treatment?
Though it may get me down, I will never let this crap take me out. I find myself getting angry and just wanting to get on with it. Just need to learn…one step at a time. Thanks for response…I'm hoping to get results quick…like tomorrow afternoon but probably Monday. I'll definitely be giving an update. Thanks again!
Josh
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- September 27, 2013 at 1:18 am
Kim-
I didn;t get report only a phone call. I was told there was increased activityin mid lobe of right lung that needed further investigation. All I can do is hope that it's nothing…if it is…step up and deal with it. Your story gives hope if in fact I need to. VATS is obviously a surgery technique for lung? I'm really interested in IL-2….that clearly has worked for you. Was it given as adjuvant treatment?
Though it may get me down, I will never let this crap take me out. I find myself getting angry and just wanting to get on with it. Just need to learn…one step at a time. Thanks for response…I'm hoping to get results quick…like tomorrow afternoon but probably Monday. I'll definitely be giving an update. Thanks again!
Josh
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- September 27, 2013 at 12:28 am
Sorry to hear.
PET has false positives but if there is increasing SUV uptake over a cut-off threshold then it is more likely than not mel. SUV uptake greater than 2.5-3.0 is common. More damning if it continues to increase with the folow up scan taken a few minutes later. Very active infection or other metabolic activity can do the same, but mel is notorious for glowing like lights on a Christmas tree. You may have this info on your radiologist report.
I was alarmed when my radiologist used the term "this should represent metastasis", I was hoping he used the word could instead. Nope, he said should, and it was……THERE ARE ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS though. The CT will give better info. Waiting for a few weeks / month or two can determine if there is a tumor doubling time.
You don't always get mel mets via the lymphatics. I am an example of that.
Stage 2A to IV eight years later. SNB was negative even with PCR. Had a back x-ray for other reasons when my lung met was accidently discovered years later. A follow-up PET/CT also found a muscle met in my pectoralis m. It was too small to see on most scans but the PET picked it right up. It was very small.
In the end I am still lucky. Because mel never visited my lymph nodes, I still have all of them! (Minus my SNB). No lymphedema. I am a vet and my SNB was in my right axilla. Most of the bites I have had were to my right arm / hand. Someone was looking out for me.
Anyway, the mel met was confirmed with VATS which removed it, and IL-2 took care of the other. I have been NED for the past 3 years as a result.
If you have to have a met, the lung is probably the best place to have one. Regardless, keep kicking its A$$. Let us know how the CT turns out.
The thing that keeps me from going nuts while waiting for scans and results is to research what to do if it is mel. For me, by having a back up plan or at least the knowledge to discuss it with my docs helps to give me a sense of controlling something I have no control over. I call it constructive stressing versus stewing. I also had a few beers along the way :).
Whishing you the best,
Kim
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- September 27, 2013 at 12:28 am
Sorry to hear.
PET has false positives but if there is increasing SUV uptake over a cut-off threshold then it is more likely than not mel. SUV uptake greater than 2.5-3.0 is common. More damning if it continues to increase with the folow up scan taken a few minutes later. Very active infection or other metabolic activity can do the same, but mel is notorious for glowing like lights on a Christmas tree. You may have this info on your radiologist report.
I was alarmed when my radiologist used the term "this should represent metastasis", I was hoping he used the word could instead. Nope, he said should, and it was……THERE ARE ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS though. The CT will give better info. Waiting for a few weeks / month or two can determine if there is a tumor doubling time.
You don't always get mel mets via the lymphatics. I am an example of that.
Stage 2A to IV eight years later. SNB was negative even with PCR. Had a back x-ray for other reasons when my lung met was accidently discovered years later. A follow-up PET/CT also found a muscle met in my pectoralis m. It was too small to see on most scans but the PET picked it right up. It was very small.
In the end I am still lucky. Because mel never visited my lymph nodes, I still have all of them! (Minus my SNB). No lymphedema. I am a vet and my SNB was in my right axilla. Most of the bites I have had were to my right arm / hand. Someone was looking out for me.
Anyway, the mel met was confirmed with VATS which removed it, and IL-2 took care of the other. I have been NED for the past 3 years as a result.
If you have to have a met, the lung is probably the best place to have one. Regardless, keep kicking its A$$. Let us know how the CT turns out.
The thing that keeps me from going nuts while waiting for scans and results is to research what to do if it is mel. For me, by having a back up plan or at least the knowledge to discuss it with my docs helps to give me a sense of controlling something I have no control over. I call it constructive stressing versus stewing. I also had a few beers along the way :).
Whishing you the best,
Kim
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