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- December 9, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Hi people, I was diagnosed with stage 1A melanoma, 0.4mm, no ulceration, no angiovascular or lymphvascular invasion, mitosis less than 1/mm, clear margins already after the basic excision (no less than 1,1 mm) two weeks ago. Tomorrow, I will undergo WLE. During the five weeks I was waiting for the excision (yes, five weeks!), I was going through hell already knowing that it will probably be bad, but not cetain how bad exactly… After the diagnosis, I was on one hand oddly relieved it is thin, but on the other hand, I am having hard times coping with the diagnosis. There are better times when I have a lot to do and do not worry that much, and then there are worse days (like today) when I come back to this foru.m and just worry about the future. I would love to stay positive all the time as I do have the probably irrational fear that for every second of not believing it will strike back sometime in the future. All these stories of recurrence here…:-( However, I am thankful for this forum cause it gave me a big insight and hope. I know that I was pretty lucky catching it earlier than later, but it still changed my life for ever… I was always an optimist, but now I just cannot find myslef in the right place…:-( I can turn from a laughing girl to a sobbing hypochondriac (yes, I constantly touch my lymph nodes, observe my bones, and revealute my health status which makes me of course not feeling well at all) in a second nowadays…my boyfriend should be given an award for patience, actually π
However, Inhave several questions I would like to ask you guys:
1. I plan to change the derm after the WLE cause I am not entitely convinced he's the best… What is the best recommended procedure with my stage after WLE? I already spoke to a melanoma specialist (one of the best in our country) and he was very kind (opposed to my derm) and told me the recommended procedure for my stage after the WLE are dermatologic check-ups twice a year. Is this correct? My derm was talking about x-rays and ultrasounds (but no SLNB, which I find very odd… He just told me that's way they do it here), the specialist said he considered it unneccessary with my pathology report and that he would opt for letting me live without this fear from scan outcomes (unless something is wrong, of course). Is it Ok to just go wit the regular derm checks? I'd from neurosis with the x-rays…
2. I am 32 year old girl without kinds yet. I have a good career, love my job, but this diagnosis changed my perspective and I do not want to wait. I read research studies that there is no proven connection between melanoma and pregnancy, and some articles and doctor statements that it is OK not wait with pregnancy in my stage. Is this true?
Last but not least, sorry for my English – I am from the Czech Republic, so it may not be prefect.
Thanks in advance for your support guys, some of the stories here are petrifying, but some of the NED stories here are so full of hope I cannot even tell how it can help. Luck to everyone of us!
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Congratulations on catching this early!! You have a great pathology report, and once you have the wide local excision you will, most likely, never hear the word "melanoma" again! Early detection for the win!
What you are going through is entirely understandable. No one wants to hear the word "cancer" or "melanoma". You've been given a little wake-up call. In the U.S., standard protocol for your lesion is WLE without SLNB, no scans, no xays. I think most dermatologists call for full body checks every three months for the first year, then twice yearly for several more years, then back to yearly. Be sun-conscious, wear sunscreen, and watch for any moles/spots that **change**. You might even want to take pictures of any moles you currently have, notating their size, so that you can check against these pictures if at some point you think something has changed.
Remember that most of the folks who join this board at your staging get the initial treatment and then go on to live their lives away from this board, so we don't get to see the 95%+ success rate of Stage 1 melanoma. Your chances of being completely rid of this disease is GREAT, so don't let it consume your life with worry!!
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Congratulations on catching this early!! You have a great pathology report, and once you have the wide local excision you will, most likely, never hear the word "melanoma" again! Early detection for the win!
What you are going through is entirely understandable. No one wants to hear the word "cancer" or "melanoma". You've been given a little wake-up call. In the U.S., standard protocol for your lesion is WLE without SLNB, no scans, no xays. I think most dermatologists call for full body checks every three months for the first year, then twice yearly for several more years, then back to yearly. Be sun-conscious, wear sunscreen, and watch for any moles/spots that **change**. You might even want to take pictures of any moles you currently have, notating their size, so that you can check against these pictures if at some point you think something has changed.
Remember that most of the folks who join this board at your staging get the initial treatment and then go on to live their lives away from this board, so we don't get to see the 95%+ success rate of Stage 1 melanoma. Your chances of being completely rid of this disease is GREAT, so don't let it consume your life with worry!!
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Congratulations on catching this early!! You have a great pathology report, and once you have the wide local excision you will, most likely, never hear the word "melanoma" again! Early detection for the win!
What you are going through is entirely understandable. No one wants to hear the word "cancer" or "melanoma". You've been given a little wake-up call. In the U.S., standard protocol for your lesion is WLE without SLNB, no scans, no xays. I think most dermatologists call for full body checks every three months for the first year, then twice yearly for several more years, then back to yearly. Be sun-conscious, wear sunscreen, and watch for any moles/spots that **change**. You might even want to take pictures of any moles you currently have, notating their size, so that you can check against these pictures if at some point you think something has changed.
Remember that most of the folks who join this board at your staging get the initial treatment and then go on to live their lives away from this board, so we don't get to see the 95%+ success rate of Stage 1 melanoma. Your chances of being completely rid of this disease is GREAT, so don't let it consume your life with worry!!
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Hi Susan, thanks so much for your comforting words, I really appreciate it. I am already considering doing a body map to make it easier to observe the moles. I also have two moles which I'd like the derm to re-check again tomorrow, cause the one is atypical (no changes as far I can tell) and the other one has unfortunately changed over several years (I noticed that on the weekend while going through some five-year old vaccation pics). The derm did not comment on it on my last visit (when I pointed out the MM to be). It is approx. 2mm of diameter, pretty symmetric, pretty one-coloured, not elevated, just a small dot, but it has darkened and grown a bit compared to the pics I found and I just wanna have it cut out tomorrow together with the WLE. (Can a mole change over years and still be benign?) Hope it's turns out well or at least not worse than melanoma we noticed in November. Nervous as hell, though. Guess this is my new attribute for my upcoming years…
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Hi Susan, thanks so much for your comforting words, I really appreciate it. I am already considering doing a body map to make it easier to observe the moles. I also have two moles which I'd like the derm to re-check again tomorrow, cause the one is atypical (no changes as far I can tell) and the other one has unfortunately changed over several years (I noticed that on the weekend while going through some five-year old vaccation pics). The derm did not comment on it on my last visit (when I pointed out the MM to be). It is approx. 2mm of diameter, pretty symmetric, pretty one-coloured, not elevated, just a small dot, but it has darkened and grown a bit compared to the pics I found and I just wanna have it cut out tomorrow together with the WLE. (Can a mole change over years and still be benign?) Hope it's turns out well or at least not worse than melanoma we noticed in November. Nervous as hell, though. Guess this is my new attribute for my upcoming years…
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Hi Susan, thanks so much for your comforting words, I really appreciate it. I am already considering doing a body map to make it easier to observe the moles. I also have two moles which I'd like the derm to re-check again tomorrow, cause the one is atypical (no changes as far I can tell) and the other one has unfortunately changed over several years (I noticed that on the weekend while going through some five-year old vaccation pics). The derm did not comment on it on my last visit (when I pointed out the MM to be). It is approx. 2mm of diameter, pretty symmetric, pretty one-coloured, not elevated, just a small dot, but it has darkened and grown a bit compared to the pics I found and I just wanna have it cut out tomorrow together with the WLE. (Can a mole change over years and still be benign?) Hope it's turns out well or at least not worse than melanoma we noticed in November. Nervous as hell, though. Guess this is my new attribute for my upcoming years…
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm
First, I'm sorry you're going through this. No stage of melanoma is fun. Stage 1 was in some ways more difficult for me than when I progressed because there were so many operations, surgeries, and tests. Do your best to remember that with careful watch, most stage 1 melanomas don't spread.
Mine did – and during pregnancy. I was 30 at the time. (I'm also 32.) You're right…the research isn't clear about melanoma and pregnancy. It's pretty rare but there are a few folks on this board who've had a similar experience to me. (FYI, after progressing to stage IV, I'm currently NED.)
The truth is, you don't know if it'll progress. You don't know if it'll spread if you ever become pregnant. But you also don't know if you'll crash on the way home tonight. Try your best to remain positive.
Finally, your English is perfect. FYI, my husband is of Czech decent…our last name is Seykora (I'm sure that "e" was added when they came to the US.)
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Ashley
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm
First, I'm sorry you're going through this. No stage of melanoma is fun. Stage 1 was in some ways more difficult for me than when I progressed because there were so many operations, surgeries, and tests. Do your best to remember that with careful watch, most stage 1 melanomas don't spread.
Mine did – and during pregnancy. I was 30 at the time. (I'm also 32.) You're right…the research isn't clear about melanoma and pregnancy. It's pretty rare but there are a few folks on this board who've had a similar experience to me. (FYI, after progressing to stage IV, I'm currently NED.)
The truth is, you don't know if it'll progress. You don't know if it'll spread if you ever become pregnant. But you also don't know if you'll crash on the way home tonight. Try your best to remain positive.
Finally, your English is perfect. FYI, my husband is of Czech decent…our last name is Seykora (I'm sure that "e" was added when they came to the US.)
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Ashley
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- December 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm
First, I'm sorry you're going through this. No stage of melanoma is fun. Stage 1 was in some ways more difficult for me than when I progressed because there were so many operations, surgeries, and tests. Do your best to remember that with careful watch, most stage 1 melanomas don't spread.
Mine did – and during pregnancy. I was 30 at the time. (I'm also 32.) You're right…the research isn't clear about melanoma and pregnancy. It's pretty rare but there are a few folks on this board who've had a similar experience to me. (FYI, after progressing to stage IV, I'm currently NED.)
The truth is, you don't know if it'll progress. You don't know if it'll spread if you ever become pregnant. But you also don't know if you'll crash on the way home tonight. Try your best to remain positive.
Finally, your English is perfect. FYI, my husband is of Czech decent…our last name is Seykora (I'm sure that "e" was added when they came to the US.)
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Ashley
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- December 10, 2015 at 12:20 am
Hi Ashley, thanks for your response, too. I am glad to hear you are NED and wish you so much it won't change in the future!
It is horrible to read that your disease has spread, and, moreover, during pregnancy… I will have to think that through and to speak to some experts, perhaps. But honestly, as much as it may sound irrational, if nothing changes (and I do not wish anything more), I'll probably risk that. I can imagine my life without kids, but not sure I imagine it without trying π And I cstill see one doctor's reply p in a forum to a girl with a slightly worse diagnosis: "Your prognosis is great. We do not know for sure whether there actually is a connection between MM and pregnancy. We give births to kids and no one of us can say we will see them grow up. I would not hesitate."
Of course, there is the fact with placental transmission which scares me a lot… We have to discuss it thoroughly…I wish there were clear answers…
And say hi to your husband! Yes, I am pretty sure the "e" is an American addition
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- December 10, 2015 at 12:20 am
Hi Ashley, thanks for your response, too. I am glad to hear you are NED and wish you so much it won't change in the future!
It is horrible to read that your disease has spread, and, moreover, during pregnancy… I will have to think that through and to speak to some experts, perhaps. But honestly, as much as it may sound irrational, if nothing changes (and I do not wish anything more), I'll probably risk that. I can imagine my life without kids, but not sure I imagine it without trying π And I cstill see one doctor's reply p in a forum to a girl with a slightly worse diagnosis: "Your prognosis is great. We do not know for sure whether there actually is a connection between MM and pregnancy. We give births to kids and no one of us can say we will see them grow up. I would not hesitate."
Of course, there is the fact with placental transmission which scares me a lot… We have to discuss it thoroughly…I wish there were clear answers…
And say hi to your husband! Yes, I am pretty sure the "e" is an American addition
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- December 10, 2015 at 12:20 am
Hi Ashley, thanks for your response, too. I am glad to hear you are NED and wish you so much it won't change in the future!
It is horrible to read that your disease has spread, and, moreover, during pregnancy… I will have to think that through and to speak to some experts, perhaps. But honestly, as much as it may sound irrational, if nothing changes (and I do not wish anything more), I'll probably risk that. I can imagine my life without kids, but not sure I imagine it without trying π And I cstill see one doctor's reply p in a forum to a girl with a slightly worse diagnosis: "Your prognosis is great. We do not know for sure whether there actually is a connection between MM and pregnancy. We give births to kids and no one of us can say we will see them grow up. I would not hesitate."
Of course, there is the fact with placental transmission which scares me a lot… We have to discuss it thoroughly…I wish there were clear answers…
And say hi to your husband! Yes, I am pretty sure the "e" is an American addition
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- December 10, 2015 at 2:50 am
Just a quick note about pregnancy. Once you have the WLE, and have confirmed clear margins, you will be cancer-free. While there is evidence that pregnancy hormones can accelerate cancer growth, there is nothing to suggest that they cause cancer (or cause an atypical mole to turn into melanoma). I would not worry for an instant about getting pregnant!
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- December 10, 2015 at 2:50 am
Just a quick note about pregnancy. Once you have the WLE, and have confirmed clear margins, you will be cancer-free. While there is evidence that pregnancy hormones can accelerate cancer growth, there is nothing to suggest that they cause cancer (or cause an atypical mole to turn into melanoma). I would not worry for an instant about getting pregnant!
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- December 10, 2015 at 2:50 am
Just a quick note about pregnancy. Once you have the WLE, and have confirmed clear margins, you will be cancer-free. While there is evidence that pregnancy hormones can accelerate cancer growth, there is nothing to suggest that they cause cancer (or cause an atypical mole to turn into melanoma). I would not worry for an instant about getting pregnant!
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- December 10, 2015 at 7:25 am
Thanks Susan! I had clear margins already after the basic excision, the derm told me the WLE had to be done as a standard precautionary meassure (which I do not object at all, I'd rather have dozens scars than worsen my prognosis…
), but stated it was already perfectly out at that time. I will talk to him today about the other moles and then… I have to consider things carefully. I'm a bit frustrated about the lack of information about melanoma here in my country, though. The top melanoma oncologist I spoke to was very kind, but he's located three hours drive from my place. He told me he would be happy to take care of me if I decided to, but given the fact that the standard procedure in my stage are derm check-ups twice a year, he literally said that driving 2x 500 km on Czech roads would mean greater threat to my life than my current diagnosis
I still consider doing that, though, as only talking to him was so hopeful and strength-giving! (As opposed to my derm who told me that my prognosis is great but it's only statistics and one never knows what will happen to me – as much as I know it is basically true, I'd prefer to get some comfort and reassurance, especially when the odds are on my side…)So, I am pretty lucky to be able to understand English, because Czech websites do not offer much. There is only one, but was updated ay ear ago and offers no information on different research, etc.
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- December 10, 2015 at 7:25 am
Thanks Susan! I had clear margins already after the basic excision, the derm told me the WLE had to be done as a standard precautionary meassure (which I do not object at all, I'd rather have dozens scars than worsen my prognosis…
), but stated it was already perfectly out at that time. I will talk to him today about the other moles and then… I have to consider things carefully. I'm a bit frustrated about the lack of information about melanoma here in my country, though. The top melanoma oncologist I spoke to was very kind, but he's located three hours drive from my place. He told me he would be happy to take care of me if I decided to, but given the fact that the standard procedure in my stage are derm check-ups twice a year, he literally said that driving 2x 500 km on Czech roads would mean greater threat to my life than my current diagnosis
I still consider doing that, though, as only talking to him was so hopeful and strength-giving! (As opposed to my derm who told me that my prognosis is great but it's only statistics and one never knows what will happen to me – as much as I know it is basically true, I'd prefer to get some comfort and reassurance, especially when the odds are on my side…)So, I am pretty lucky to be able to understand English, because Czech websites do not offer much. There is only one, but was updated ay ear ago and offers no information on different research, etc.
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- December 10, 2015 at 7:25 am
Thanks Susan! I had clear margins already after the basic excision, the derm told me the WLE had to be done as a standard precautionary meassure (which I do not object at all, I'd rather have dozens scars than worsen my prognosis…
), but stated it was already perfectly out at that time. I will talk to him today about the other moles and then… I have to consider things carefully. I'm a bit frustrated about the lack of information about melanoma here in my country, though. The top melanoma oncologist I spoke to was very kind, but he's located three hours drive from my place. He told me he would be happy to take care of me if I decided to, but given the fact that the standard procedure in my stage are derm check-ups twice a year, he literally said that driving 2x 500 km on Czech roads would mean greater threat to my life than my current diagnosis
I still consider doing that, though, as only talking to him was so hopeful and strength-giving! (As opposed to my derm who told me that my prognosis is great but it's only statistics and one never knows what will happen to me – as much as I know it is basically true, I'd prefer to get some comfort and reassurance, especially when the odds are on my side…)So, I am pretty lucky to be able to understand English, because Czech websites do not offer much. There is only one, but was updated ay ear ago and offers no information on different research, etc.
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- December 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Just for comparison sake, most people with a stage 1a lesion wouldn't see an oncologist in the USA, only a dermatologist. An oncologist treats active disease and can't really offer an early stage individual anything. So regular skin checks by a dermatologist are the norm here. I suggest taking pictures of your moles. Then you have a baseline and can watch for change. Only about 10% get a second melanoma. Your risk of a second primary is higher than your risk of having a recurrence from your first primary.
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- December 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Just for comparison sake, most people with a stage 1a lesion wouldn't see an oncologist in the USA, only a dermatologist. An oncologist treats active disease and can't really offer an early stage individual anything. So regular skin checks by a dermatologist are the norm here. I suggest taking pictures of your moles. Then you have a baseline and can watch for change. Only about 10% get a second melanoma. Your risk of a second primary is higher than your risk of having a recurrence from your first primary.
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- December 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Just for comparison sake, most people with a stage 1a lesion wouldn't see an oncologist in the USA, only a dermatologist. An oncologist treats active disease and can't really offer an early stage individual anything. So regular skin checks by a dermatologist are the norm here. I suggest taking pictures of your moles. Then you have a baseline and can watch for change. Only about 10% get a second melanoma. Your risk of a second primary is higher than your risk of having a recurrence from your first primary.
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- December 10, 2015 at 4:36 pm
Hi Janner, thanks a lot. Today, I underwent the WLE. I also asked him to check for the other two moles. He told me the one should be excised (although he stated it does not really bare melanome symptoms and that clinically, it looks like a 3mm dark junctional nevus), but wanted me to wait for the excision couple of weeks again, so I told him into doing that at one time, but was asked to pay for that and I do not consider it really OK as he stated himself the mole should better be taken out…:-/ So I decided to leave him after the WLE (have to wait the results of this mole, though), coz I really really hate his attitude (he is basically saying me my prospects are bad all the time). I wrote to this oncologist guy and asked for an appointment. I just want to consult my case and discuss it with a top expert, and then, I will find another dermatologist who can look after me, with a more optimistic approach, near my place…
I also wrote a question to another melanoma specialist, asking what is the recommended procedure nowadays after WLE with stage 1A. I do not want to miss anything, but I just want to make sure what is right. Coz the derm today made me feel horrible and keep on stressing out that not undergoing the ultrasound and x-rays almost immediately is a hazardous decision…(well, I just wanted to postpone the January date cause I realised I won´t be around and I really do believe three weeks postoponing would not mean that much). He somehow forgot the fact that he let me wait for the excision of A VERY suspicious lesion for five weeks, which I do not consider OK in the first place…it could be even thinner, who knows, if he was more pro-active π
Sorry for a long comment, but I am sort of disappointed with him right now. I mean of course I do know the risks and know that my diagnosis is serious, but on the other hand, I need someone optimistic who will make me believe that together, we can always figure things out no matter what….or at least try and not be pessimistic right from the beginning. If you know what I mean…:-(
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- December 10, 2015 at 4:36 pm
Hi Janner, thanks a lot. Today, I underwent the WLE. I also asked him to check for the other two moles. He told me the one should be excised (although he stated it does not really bare melanome symptoms and that clinically, it looks like a 3mm dark junctional nevus), but wanted me to wait for the excision couple of weeks again, so I told him into doing that at one time, but was asked to pay for that and I do not consider it really OK as he stated himself the mole should better be taken out…:-/ So I decided to leave him after the WLE (have to wait the results of this mole, though), coz I really really hate his attitude (he is basically saying me my prospects are bad all the time). I wrote to this oncologist guy and asked for an appointment. I just want to consult my case and discuss it with a top expert, and then, I will find another dermatologist who can look after me, with a more optimistic approach, near my place…
I also wrote a question to another melanoma specialist, asking what is the recommended procedure nowadays after WLE with stage 1A. I do not want to miss anything, but I just want to make sure what is right. Coz the derm today made me feel horrible and keep on stressing out that not undergoing the ultrasound and x-rays almost immediately is a hazardous decision…(well, I just wanted to postpone the January date cause I realised I won´t be around and I really do believe three weeks postoponing would not mean that much). He somehow forgot the fact that he let me wait for the excision of A VERY suspicious lesion for five weeks, which I do not consider OK in the first place…it could be even thinner, who knows, if he was more pro-active π
Sorry for a long comment, but I am sort of disappointed with him right now. I mean of course I do know the risks and know that my diagnosis is serious, but on the other hand, I need someone optimistic who will make me believe that together, we can always figure things out no matter what….or at least try and not be pessimistic right from the beginning. If you know what I mean…:-(
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- December 10, 2015 at 4:36 pm
Hi Janner, thanks a lot. Today, I underwent the WLE. I also asked him to check for the other two moles. He told me the one should be excised (although he stated it does not really bare melanome symptoms and that clinically, it looks like a 3mm dark junctional nevus), but wanted me to wait for the excision couple of weeks again, so I told him into doing that at one time, but was asked to pay for that and I do not consider it really OK as he stated himself the mole should better be taken out…:-/ So I decided to leave him after the WLE (have to wait the results of this mole, though), coz I really really hate his attitude (he is basically saying me my prospects are bad all the time). I wrote to this oncologist guy and asked for an appointment. I just want to consult my case and discuss it with a top expert, and then, I will find another dermatologist who can look after me, with a more optimistic approach, near my place…
I also wrote a question to another melanoma specialist, asking what is the recommended procedure nowadays after WLE with stage 1A. I do not want to miss anything, but I just want to make sure what is right. Coz the derm today made me feel horrible and keep on stressing out that not undergoing the ultrasound and x-rays almost immediately is a hazardous decision…(well, I just wanted to postpone the January date cause I realised I won´t be around and I really do believe three weeks postoponing would not mean that much). He somehow forgot the fact that he let me wait for the excision of A VERY suspicious lesion for five weeks, which I do not consider OK in the first place…it could be even thinner, who knows, if he was more pro-active π
Sorry for a long comment, but I am sort of disappointed with him right now. I mean of course I do know the risks and know that my diagnosis is serious, but on the other hand, I need someone optimistic who will make me believe that together, we can always figure things out no matter what….or at least try and not be pessimistic right from the beginning. If you know what I mean…:-(
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- December 10, 2015 at 5:32 pm
And moreover, after I asked him whether it was possible to change the ultrasound + x-rays date, he told me that he was not sure the WLE made any sense today…? That usually, it is done after the ultrasound and x-ray because their outcome might change the procedure. Have you ever heard about it? The original dates were still WLE first and ultra + x-ray afterwards, so I do not know what he was talking about. Inbasically made him to do that today no matter of the date of further proceeding…
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- December 10, 2015 at 5:32 pm
And moreover, after I asked him whether it was possible to change the ultrasound + x-rays date, he told me that he was not sure the WLE made any sense today…? That usually, it is done after the ultrasound and x-ray because their outcome might change the procedure. Have you ever heard about it? The original dates were still WLE first and ultra + x-ray afterwards, so I do not know what he was talking about. Inbasically made him to do that today no matter of the date of further proceeding…
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- December 10, 2015 at 5:32 pm
And moreover, after I asked him whether it was possible to change the ultrasound + x-rays date, he told me that he was not sure the WLE made any sense today…? That usually, it is done after the ultrasound and x-ray because their outcome might change the procedure. Have you ever heard about it? The original dates were still WLE first and ultra + x-ray afterwards, so I do not know what he was talking about. Inbasically made him to do that today no matter of the date of further proceeding…
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- December 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Ultrasounds and X-Rays are not typically done in the US for melanoma. X-Rays really only catch stage IV and at stage 1a, that is extremely unlikely. What are they planning to ultrasound? They lymph nodes? Again, not done in the US except maybe for someone who had a positve sentinel node biopsy and chose monitoring over removing all the rest of the lymph nodes. (There have been clinical trials in the US comparing ultrasound monitoring versus complete lymph node dissection).
A "sentinel node biopsy" done after a WLE may change the procedure because removing all the tissue for the WLE may change the lymph drainage paths. The sentinel node before the WLE may be different than the sentinel node AFTER the WLE. Both X-Rays and ultrasounds are non-invasive and would change nothing so that statement makes no sense to me. Again, sometimes in the USA, someone might have a baseline chest x-ray for stage 1A, but honestly it really serves little purpose other than "baseline". There is no expectation that you'd find any melanoma in the X-ray.
So if your doc was planning on doing the SNB (not recommended for your stage), then it is too late after the WLE. Results may be compromised. But I've never heard of any other procedure that would be affected by the WLE especially for your stage. I've been stage 1B since 1992 with 3 melanoma primaries and I've been in this online melanoma world for 14+ years.
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- December 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Ultrasounds and X-Rays are not typically done in the US for melanoma. X-Rays really only catch stage IV and at stage 1a, that is extremely unlikely. What are they planning to ultrasound? They lymph nodes? Again, not done in the US except maybe for someone who had a positve sentinel node biopsy and chose monitoring over removing all the rest of the lymph nodes. (There have been clinical trials in the US comparing ultrasound monitoring versus complete lymph node dissection).
A "sentinel node biopsy" done after a WLE may change the procedure because removing all the tissue for the WLE may change the lymph drainage paths. The sentinel node before the WLE may be different than the sentinel node AFTER the WLE. Both X-Rays and ultrasounds are non-invasive and would change nothing so that statement makes no sense to me. Again, sometimes in the USA, someone might have a baseline chest x-ray for stage 1A, but honestly it really serves little purpose other than "baseline". There is no expectation that you'd find any melanoma in the X-ray.
So if your doc was planning on doing the SNB (not recommended for your stage), then it is too late after the WLE. Results may be compromised. But I've never heard of any other procedure that would be affected by the WLE especially for your stage. I've been stage 1B since 1992 with 3 melanoma primaries and I've been in this online melanoma world for 14+ years.
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- December 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Ultrasounds and X-Rays are not typically done in the US for melanoma. X-Rays really only catch stage IV and at stage 1a, that is extremely unlikely. What are they planning to ultrasound? They lymph nodes? Again, not done in the US except maybe for someone who had a positve sentinel node biopsy and chose monitoring over removing all the rest of the lymph nodes. (There have been clinical trials in the US comparing ultrasound monitoring versus complete lymph node dissection).
A "sentinel node biopsy" done after a WLE may change the procedure because removing all the tissue for the WLE may change the lymph drainage paths. The sentinel node before the WLE may be different than the sentinel node AFTER the WLE. Both X-Rays and ultrasounds are non-invasive and would change nothing so that statement makes no sense to me. Again, sometimes in the USA, someone might have a baseline chest x-ray for stage 1A, but honestly it really serves little purpose other than "baseline". There is no expectation that you'd find any melanoma in the X-ray.
So if your doc was planning on doing the SNB (not recommended for your stage), then it is too late after the WLE. Results may be compromised. But I've never heard of any other procedure that would be affected by the WLE especially for your stage. I've been stage 1B since 1992 with 3 melanoma primaries and I've been in this online melanoma world for 14+ years.
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- December 10, 2015 at 6:18 pm
They wanted to ultrasound abdomen and lymph nodes. No plan to do SNB which does not make any sense to me either…so I was kinda surprised he said to me that we should not do the WLE toda, if we postpone the ultrasound and x-ray from January 14 to February 10 (let's say). I just do not get it and I honestly think it was slightly personal, because I keep on asking all the questions.
That just added to my decision to change him, as I simply do not trust him absolutely… I hope I am not doing any mistake.
The oncologist I am trying to get to told me he sees no reason to undergo ultrasound and x-ray, and that I should relax after the WLE and find a new derm. And that is what I am probably gonna do… Am i crazy? π
and thanks again for your support… I am really upset today as it would be a lot easier if I had a doctor I could rely on from the very beginning…
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- December 10, 2015 at 6:18 pm
They wanted to ultrasound abdomen and lymph nodes. No plan to do SNB which does not make any sense to me either…so I was kinda surprised he said to me that we should not do the WLE toda, if we postpone the ultrasound and x-ray from January 14 to February 10 (let's say). I just do not get it and I honestly think it was slightly personal, because I keep on asking all the questions.
That just added to my decision to change him, as I simply do not trust him absolutely… I hope I am not doing any mistake.
The oncologist I am trying to get to told me he sees no reason to undergo ultrasound and x-ray, and that I should relax after the WLE and find a new derm. And that is what I am probably gonna do… Am i crazy? π
and thanks again for your support… I am really upset today as it would be a lot easier if I had a doctor I could rely on from the very beginning…
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- December 10, 2015 at 6:18 pm
They wanted to ultrasound abdomen and lymph nodes. No plan to do SNB which does not make any sense to me either…so I was kinda surprised he said to me that we should not do the WLE toda, if we postpone the ultrasound and x-ray from January 14 to February 10 (let's say). I just do not get it and I honestly think it was slightly personal, because I keep on asking all the questions.
That just added to my decision to change him, as I simply do not trust him absolutely… I hope I am not doing any mistake.
The oncologist I am trying to get to told me he sees no reason to undergo ultrasound and x-ray, and that I should relax after the WLE and find a new derm. And that is what I am probably gonna do… Am i crazy? π
and thanks again for your support… I am really upset today as it would be a lot easier if I had a doctor I could rely on from the very beginning…
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- December 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm
So the reason they want to do the ultrasound first is because if you were to have systemic disease (obvious disease in the lymph nodes or abdomen), then doing the WLE would be secondary to fighting the disease at a systemic level. However, the likelihood that a stage Ia lesion would show anything by ultrasound in either the lymph nodes or abdomen is so very small that I see no point. They do the same thing in the US when the sentinel node is positive. Often times they will do scans before they remove the rest of the lymph nodes because if there is disease elsewhere in the body (stage IV), why do an invasive surgery designed for stage III?
In your case with such a small stage Ia lesion, the ultrasound and x-ray are just for baseline only, not diagnostic purposes. That's the reality.
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- December 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm
So the reason they want to do the ultrasound first is because if you were to have systemic disease (obvious disease in the lymph nodes or abdomen), then doing the WLE would be secondary to fighting the disease at a systemic level. However, the likelihood that a stage Ia lesion would show anything by ultrasound in either the lymph nodes or abdomen is so very small that I see no point. They do the same thing in the US when the sentinel node is positive. Often times they will do scans before they remove the rest of the lymph nodes because if there is disease elsewhere in the body (stage IV), why do an invasive surgery designed for stage III?
In your case with such a small stage Ia lesion, the ultrasound and x-ray are just for baseline only, not diagnostic purposes. That's the reality.
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- December 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm
So the reason they want to do the ultrasound first is because if you were to have systemic disease (obvious disease in the lymph nodes or abdomen), then doing the WLE would be secondary to fighting the disease at a systemic level. However, the likelihood that a stage Ia lesion would show anything by ultrasound in either the lymph nodes or abdomen is so very small that I see no point. They do the same thing in the US when the sentinel node is positive. Often times they will do scans before they remove the rest of the lymph nodes because if there is disease elsewhere in the body (stage IV), why do an invasive surgery designed for stage III?
In your case with such a small stage Ia lesion, the ultrasound and x-ray are just for baseline only, not diagnostic purposes. That's the reality.
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- December 10, 2015 at 8:32 pm
Thanks so much, Janner, I get the point.
He told me he saw "many" stage 1A patient showing mets on these initial scans, and that it is better to "diagnose it right now than to wait for swollen lymph nodes"… And as much as I know it can happen, I desperately need a doctor who will state the facts but will remain positive (when there is a reason to be, of course). Or perhaps I'm just having too hard times accepting the reality?
One positive thing: the WLE is hurting much less I expected it to be (so far), but let's see if I'm gonna be able to sleep π (It's 9:30 pm here…)
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- December 10, 2015 at 8:32 pm
Thanks so much, Janner, I get the point.
He told me he saw "many" stage 1A patient showing mets on these initial scans, and that it is better to "diagnose it right now than to wait for swollen lymph nodes"… And as much as I know it can happen, I desperately need a doctor who will state the facts but will remain positive (when there is a reason to be, of course). Or perhaps I'm just having too hard times accepting the reality?
One positive thing: the WLE is hurting much less I expected it to be (so far), but let's see if I'm gonna be able to sleep π (It's 9:30 pm here…)
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- December 10, 2015 at 8:32 pm
Thanks so much, Janner, I get the point.
He told me he saw "many" stage 1A patient showing mets on these initial scans, and that it is better to "diagnose it right now than to wait for swollen lymph nodes"… And as much as I know it can happen, I desperately need a doctor who will state the facts but will remain positive (when there is a reason to be, of course). Or perhaps I'm just having too hard times accepting the reality?
One positive thing: the WLE is hurting much less I expected it to be (so far), but let's see if I'm gonna be able to sleep π (It's 9:30 pm here…)
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- December 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm
Well, I say get your new doc because any doctor that says they see "many" stage 1a that have evidence of ANY melanoma elsewhere is lying. That's at least how I see it. He is just trying to scare you. I don't care how positive someone is but I do need someone who is at least honest. It's fine to say there are no guarantees because there aren't. You don't want to dismiss your diagnosis as trivial. But anything more than that is just trying to impart fear that is NOT in proportion to the risk. Stage Ia has about a 97% survival rate. How would he be seeing "many" with melanoma mets at diagnosis? I think you're right – your questions have probably put him off and he is going out of his way to scare you. Move on. But I wouldn't worry about the ultrasound or x-ray – totally unnecessary. Find your new derm. And move on to the periodic skin checks which is really the only standard of care for stage 1a.
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- December 11, 2015 at 6:42 am
That is exactly how I feel it. I know there is no guarantee with this diagnosis, but exactly as you stated, I do not need anyone who keeps on scaring me off and is actually in favour of the real, yet far less probable bad outcome…
Just for your interest, he said to make the ultrasound and x-rays are done also in melanoma-in-situ patients, as "nothing is granted for them either"…I though T0 is basically 100% cured by excision…?
Thank you again, Janner, I'm feeling a lot better today and cannot appreciate your replies enough…
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- December 11, 2015 at 6:42 am
That is exactly how I feel it. I know there is no guarantee with this diagnosis, but exactly as you stated, I do not need anyone who keeps on scaring me off and is actually in favour of the real, yet far less probable bad outcome…
Just for your interest, he said to make the ultrasound and x-rays are done also in melanoma-in-situ patients, as "nothing is granted for them either"…I though T0 is basically 100% cured by excision…?
Thank you again, Janner, I'm feeling a lot better today and cannot appreciate your replies enough…
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- December 11, 2015 at 6:42 am
That is exactly how I feel it. I know there is no guarantee with this diagnosis, but exactly as you stated, I do not need anyone who keeps on scaring me off and is actually in favour of the real, yet far less probable bad outcome…
Just for your interest, he said to make the ultrasound and x-rays are done also in melanoma-in-situ patients, as "nothing is granted for them either"…I though T0 is basically 100% cured by excision…?
Thank you again, Janner, I'm feeling a lot better today and cannot appreciate your replies enough…
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- December 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm
Well, I say get your new doc because any doctor that says they see "many" stage 1a that have evidence of ANY melanoma elsewhere is lying. That's at least how I see it. He is just trying to scare you. I don't care how positive someone is but I do need someone who is at least honest. It's fine to say there are no guarantees because there aren't. You don't want to dismiss your diagnosis as trivial. But anything more than that is just trying to impart fear that is NOT in proportion to the risk. Stage Ia has about a 97% survival rate. How would he be seeing "many" with melanoma mets at diagnosis? I think you're right – your questions have probably put him off and he is going out of his way to scare you. Move on. But I wouldn't worry about the ultrasound or x-ray – totally unnecessary. Find your new derm. And move on to the periodic skin checks which is really the only standard of care for stage 1a.
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- December 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm
Well, I say get your new doc because any doctor that says they see "many" stage 1a that have evidence of ANY melanoma elsewhere is lying. That's at least how I see it. He is just trying to scare you. I don't care how positive someone is but I do need someone who is at least honest. It's fine to say there are no guarantees because there aren't. You don't want to dismiss your diagnosis as trivial. But anything more than that is just trying to impart fear that is NOT in proportion to the risk. Stage Ia has about a 97% survival rate. How would he be seeing "many" with melanoma mets at diagnosis? I think you're right – your questions have probably put him off and he is going out of his way to scare you. Move on. But I wouldn't worry about the ultrasound or x-ray – totally unnecessary. Find your new derm. And move on to the periodic skin checks which is really the only standard of care for stage 1a.
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