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    ecc26
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      Having been removed from the clinical trial Frday afternoon and sent home with discs and reports, I took both to my local oncologist's office first thing Monday morning. On my way out I stopped by the Radiation oncologist's office to let them know what was happening and that images/reports would be uploaded into the system for viewing soon. They happened to have had a no show, so the put me in for a quick appointmet, went and got the discs to view at least quickly, then after the appointment took them back to be scanned.

      I expressed my desire to get an appointment ASAP for Gamma Knife, but also my understanding that this might not be possible for a week or so given scheduling. They said they would get in touch with the facility and see what they could do.

      Yesterday around noon I had the follow up with my local medical oncologist that had been scheduled before my trip to Boston. We discussed when to get started on the back-up plan (Ipi + one of the PD-1's in combo), tossed around ideas of waiting until after the brain mets were treated vs possibly starting before. Steroids were a factor in the conversation related to whether we would wean off first or go ahead and start since I didn't yet have an appointment for Gamma Knife. No real decision was made, but the general thought was that it would be ok to start on the higher doses with the steroids, then as I am weaned off steroids, perhaps reduce the dosages of the drugs (especially Ipi) to help reduce possible side effects.

      After that appointment, I got the call from the Gamma Knife facility- they made an extra appointment on a day (tomorrow) that they don't usually do treatments to get me in. I was not expecting that at all. Called my medical oncologist to let him know, and got a quick answer that we would start infusions on Monday. Waiting on a follow up call from him today with a few more details, but in general pretty happy about how quickly things have moved along. In the process of shuffling things at work (meetings, etc) to make sure things get covered appropriately for when I need to be out for things, and hoping I get some success from these drugs that I've already failed without a lot of side effects. Have to try.

      -Eva

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        Polymath
        Participant

          Hi Eva,

          Great news in that your doctors and facilities are so accommodating.  I don't think the ipi/nivo combo is something that can be altered dose-wise and as we commented on earlier, the combo of simultaneous radiation and immunotherapy are likely to boost effectiveness of overall treatment.  Good plan!  On a final note, although my specialist does not like using steroids while on immunotherapy, apparently (Celeste & Ed chime in here) most doctors say there are no negatives, and being on the steroids would also lessen any side-effects, caused by treatment.

          Gary

          Polymath
          Participant

            Hi Eva,

            Great news in that your doctors and facilities are so accommodating.  I don't think the ipi/nivo combo is something that can be altered dose-wise and as we commented on earlier, the combo of simultaneous radiation and immunotherapy are likely to boost effectiveness of overall treatment.  Good plan!  On a final note, although my specialist does not like using steroids while on immunotherapy, apparently (Celeste & Ed chime in here) most doctors say there are no negatives, and being on the steroids would also lessen any side-effects, caused by treatment.

            Gary

            Polymath
            Participant

              Hi Eva,

              Great news in that your doctors and facilities are so accommodating.  I don't think the ipi/nivo combo is something that can be altered dose-wise and as we commented on earlier, the combo of simultaneous radiation and immunotherapy are likely to boost effectiveness of overall treatment.  Good plan!  On a final note, although my specialist does not like using steroids while on immunotherapy, apparently (Celeste & Ed chime in here) most doctors say there are no negatives, and being on the steroids would also lessen any side-effects, caused by treatment.

              Gary

              Mat
              Participant

                Eva, great news.  On the steroids point, I think the rule of thumb is that they hold infusions until you are at or under 10mg (prednisone)/day–assuming that the steroids are being used to treat an active side effect. Hard to tell from your post.  (I have not heard of folks taking preventative/anticipatory steroids.)

                  Polymath
                  Participant

                    Hi Mat,

                    Actually my regular oncologist (because of my geographic isolation I see both a specialist and regular oncologist) had used 10mg Prednisone as a preventative measure as I began Yervoy.  I had almost no side-effects from the ipi, although I also did not have any measurable response either.  So I guess its been known to happen.

                    Gary

                    ecc26
                    Participant

                      I also have an ever increasing team of local oncologists and specialists in various places (Boston, MA Buffalo, NY, Ithaca NY) some of which I've been workiing with for quite a long time now. I do feel fortunate that they know me well and will really work hard to get me what I need or ask for. I really do appreciate how hard they work for me. 

                      As for the steroids, I'm only on 2mg Dexamethasone twice daily, which I just learned today will start to be decreased on Saturday, so not sure that will be any real concern. First infusion of something (not sure of dose or exact combo other than it will inolve Ipi and one of the PD-1's) is Monday morning. Still waiting for details on that.

                      Sitting in our hotel room in Buffalo in preparation for Gamma knive tomorrow morning. This will be my 5th (or 6th?) go-round with this treatment, but so far each one has done the trick (at least for a while).

                      -Eva

                      Maria C
                      Participant

                        Hi Eva – just catching this and want you to know my thoughts (and heart) are with you during your 5th/6th round of gamma knife. I've had 2 rounds and am in the midst of getting scheduled for another one. You are inspiring to me…

                        Maria C
                        Participant

                          Hi Eva – just catching this and want you to know my thoughts (and heart) are with you during your 5th/6th round of gamma knife. I've had 2 rounds and am in the midst of getting scheduled for another one. You are inspiring to me…

                          Maria C
                          Participant

                            Hi Eva – just catching this and want you to know my thoughts (and heart) are with you during your 5th/6th round of gamma knife. I've had 2 rounds and am in the midst of getting scheduled for another one. You are inspiring to me…

                            ecc26
                            Participant

                              I also have an ever increasing team of local oncologists and specialists in various places (Boston, MA Buffalo, NY, Ithaca NY) some of which I've been workiing with for quite a long time now. I do feel fortunate that they know me well and will really work hard to get me what I need or ask for. I really do appreciate how hard they work for me. 

                              As for the steroids, I'm only on 2mg Dexamethasone twice daily, which I just learned today will start to be decreased on Saturday, so not sure that will be any real concern. First infusion of something (not sure of dose or exact combo other than it will inolve Ipi and one of the PD-1's) is Monday morning. Still waiting for details on that.

                              Sitting in our hotel room in Buffalo in preparation for Gamma knive tomorrow morning. This will be my 5th (or 6th?) go-round with this treatment, but so far each one has done the trick (at least for a while).

                              -Eva

                              ecc26
                              Participant

                                I also have an ever increasing team of local oncologists and specialists in various places (Boston, MA Buffalo, NY, Ithaca NY) some of which I've been workiing with for quite a long time now. I do feel fortunate that they know me well and will really work hard to get me what I need or ask for. I really do appreciate how hard they work for me. 

                                As for the steroids, I'm only on 2mg Dexamethasone twice daily, which I just learned today will start to be decreased on Saturday, so not sure that will be any real concern. First infusion of something (not sure of dose or exact combo other than it will inolve Ipi and one of the PD-1's) is Monday morning. Still waiting for details on that.

                                Sitting in our hotel room in Buffalo in preparation for Gamma knive tomorrow morning. This will be my 5th (or 6th?) go-round with this treatment, but so far each one has done the trick (at least for a while).

                                -Eva

                                Polymath
                                Participant

                                  Hi Mat,

                                  Actually my regular oncologist (because of my geographic isolation I see both a specialist and regular oncologist) had used 10mg Prednisone as a preventative measure as I began Yervoy.  I had almost no side-effects from the ipi, although I also did not have any measurable response either.  So I guess its been known to happen.

                                  Gary

                                  Polymath
                                  Participant

                                    Hi Mat,

                                    Actually my regular oncologist (because of my geographic isolation I see both a specialist and regular oncologist) had used 10mg Prednisone as a preventative measure as I began Yervoy.  I had almost no side-effects from the ipi, although I also did not have any measurable response either.  So I guess its been known to happen.

                                    Gary

                                  Mat
                                  Participant

                                    Eva, great news.  On the steroids point, I think the rule of thumb is that they hold infusions until you are at or under 10mg (prednisone)/day–assuming that the steroids are being used to treat an active side effect. Hard to tell from your post.  (I have not heard of folks taking preventative/anticipatory steroids.)

                                    Mat
                                    Participant

                                      Eva, great news.  On the steroids point, I think the rule of thumb is that they hold infusions until you are at or under 10mg (prednisone)/day–assuming that the steroids are being used to treat an active side effect. Hard to tell from your post.  (I have not heard of folks taking preventative/anticipatory steroids.)

                                      Bubbles
                                      Participant

                                        Go Eva go!!!  You are one tough cookie!  So very glad things are getting a move on – both with the gamma knife and the combo!  As the post I linked to your previous thread noted….folks do better the sooner they are treated with the radiation given as simultaneously as possible to the immunotherapy!

                                        Here is just one of many articles I've posted where researchers recommend treatment of side effects with steroids when needed with no decrease in expected response to the melanoma therapy:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2015/09/side-effects-and-how-to-manage-them-in.html

                                        Hang in there. Fingers and toes crossed for you today!!!  love, c

                                        Bubbles
                                        Participant

                                          Go Eva go!!!  You are one tough cookie!  So very glad things are getting a move on – both with the gamma knife and the combo!  As the post I linked to your previous thread noted….folks do better the sooner they are treated with the radiation given as simultaneously as possible to the immunotherapy!

                                          Here is just one of many articles I've posted where researchers recommend treatment of side effects with steroids when needed with no decrease in expected response to the melanoma therapy:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2015/09/side-effects-and-how-to-manage-them-in.html

                                          Hang in there. Fingers and toes crossed for you today!!!  love, c

                                          Bubbles
                                          Participant

                                            Go Eva go!!!  You are one tough cookie!  So very glad things are getting a move on – both with the gamma knife and the combo!  As the post I linked to your previous thread noted….folks do better the sooner they are treated with the radiation given as simultaneously as possible to the immunotherapy!

                                            Here is just one of many articles I've posted where researchers recommend treatment of side effects with steroids when needed with no decrease in expected response to the melanoma therapy:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2015/09/side-effects-and-how-to-manage-them-in.html

                                            Hang in there. Fingers and toes crossed for you today!!!  love, c

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