LDH Levels

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    triciaches
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      • I recently had my 2nd melanoma removed. The first was in 2009 on my left shoulder, the 2nd on my lower left leg.  After wide exsision, SLN & margins were clear. My official diagnosis statis is "Stage 1b" (T2a NO MO)

        My November LDH level was 219 with the standard range of 125 – 250 U/L. Since this is on the high side of the range, I am a little concerned.  I have not had any CT/MRI or PET scans done to date.

        Does anyone else have any insight on LDH levels??

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        Gene_S
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          When my husband was first moved to stage IV his LDH was 1200 and as his Ipi Clinical Trial started working it dropped.  He has been NED now for 17 months and his LDH is usually between 180 and 230 for most of his blood tests.  So I think yours is fine since it is in the normal range.

          I wouldn't worry about those numbers especially since you are very low in the staging also.

          Judy (loving wife of Gene Stage IV and now NED)

          Gene_S
          Participant

            When my husband was first moved to stage IV his LDH was 1200 and as his Ipi Clinical Trial started working it dropped.  He has been NED now for 17 months and his LDH is usually between 180 and 230 for most of his blood tests.  So I think yours is fine since it is in the normal range.

            I wouldn't worry about those numbers especially since you are very low in the staging also.

            Judy (loving wife of Gene Stage IV and now NED)

            Gene_S
            Participant

              When my husband was first moved to stage IV his LDH was 1200 and as his Ipi Clinical Trial started working it dropped.  He has been NED now for 17 months and his LDH is usually between 180 and 230 for most of his blood tests.  So I think yours is fine since it is in the normal range.

              I wouldn't worry about those numbers especially since you are very low in the staging also.

              Judy (loving wife of Gene Stage IV and now NED)

              Mat
              Participant

                A heightened LDH level (330) led to me being scanned, which then led to my diagnosis (IV).  However, before ordering the scan, my doctor (a mel specialist) had my LDH re-tested noting that there can often be a false positive.  In fact, my doctor would not order the scan until the LDH was re-tested to confirm (this was true even though I also had a small subcutaneous mass–later determined to be mel).  My point is not that I think you should be concerned (particularly since your level is much lower).  Rather, I'd ask to have your LDH re-tested–both now and maybe again in a few weeks.  Other posters will tell you that LDH is not a good indicator of metastasis.  Maybe they're right–I haven't done the research.  For me personally–it was an essential step in the path to my diagnosis and subsequent treatment.

                  JC
                  Participant

                    It’s only of concern for those being treated for Stage 4. There is lots of disagreement about its relevance. Also, some things you eat, drink, medications you take, etc. . .can raise LDH.

                    BrianP
                    Participant

                      I think exercise can have a significant impact on LDH levels as well.

                      JC
                      Participant

                        raise them or lower them?

                        BrianP
                        Participant

                          I'm no medical expert but I think what happens is when you work your muscles hard a by product is lactic acid is released into the blood stream which can cause an increase in LDH levels on blood test.  I did a quick google and couldn't really find anything stating how much increase you could expect.  I found the below quote on the Livestrong website.

                          Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH)

                          Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH) is an enzyme which demonstrates elevated levels when body tissue breaks down. LDH is present in plant lifeforms as well as animals and humans. Exercise can increase LDH levels in your blood, although an increase in the level of exercise stress on your body does not cause any additional increase in LDH levels. Elevated LDH levels without exercise may indicate the presence of HIV, cancer, meningitis or encephalitis

                          BrianP
                          Participant

                            I'm no medical expert but I think what happens is when you work your muscles hard a by product is lactic acid is released into the blood stream which can cause an increase in LDH levels on blood test.  I did a quick google and couldn't really find anything stating how much increase you could expect.  I found the below quote on the Livestrong website.

                            Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH)

                            Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH) is an enzyme which demonstrates elevated levels when body tissue breaks down. LDH is present in plant lifeforms as well as animals and humans. Exercise can increase LDH levels in your blood, although an increase in the level of exercise stress on your body does not cause any additional increase in LDH levels. Elevated LDH levels without exercise may indicate the presence of HIV, cancer, meningitis or encephalitis

                            BrianP
                            Participant

                              I'm no medical expert but I think what happens is when you work your muscles hard a by product is lactic acid is released into the blood stream which can cause an increase in LDH levels on blood test.  I did a quick google and couldn't really find anything stating how much increase you could expect.  I found the below quote on the Livestrong website.

                              Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH)

                              Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH) is an enzyme which demonstrates elevated levels when body tissue breaks down. LDH is present in plant lifeforms as well as animals and humans. Exercise can increase LDH levels in your blood, although an increase in the level of exercise stress on your body does not cause any additional increase in LDH levels. Elevated LDH levels without exercise may indicate the presence of HIV, cancer, meningitis or encephalitis

                              JC
                              Participant

                                raise them or lower them?

                                JC
                                Participant

                                  raise them or lower them?

                                  BrianP
                                  Participant

                                    I think exercise can have a significant impact on LDH levels as well.

                                    BrianP
                                    Participant

                                      I think exercise can have a significant impact on LDH levels as well.

                                      JC
                                      Participant

                                        It’s only of concern for those being treated for Stage 4. There is lots of disagreement about its relevance. Also, some things you eat, drink, medications you take, etc. . .can raise LDH.

                                        JC
                                        Participant

                                          It’s only of concern for those being treated for Stage 4. There is lots of disagreement about its relevance. Also, some things you eat, drink, medications you take, etc. . .can raise LDH.

                                        Mat
                                        Participant

                                          A heightened LDH level (330) led to me being scanned, which then led to my diagnosis (IV).  However, before ordering the scan, my doctor (a mel specialist) had my LDH re-tested noting that there can often be a false positive.  In fact, my doctor would not order the scan until the LDH was re-tested to confirm (this was true even though I also had a small subcutaneous mass–later determined to be mel).  My point is not that I think you should be concerned (particularly since your level is much lower).  Rather, I'd ask to have your LDH re-tested–both now and maybe again in a few weeks.  Other posters will tell you that LDH is not a good indicator of metastasis.  Maybe they're right–I haven't done the research.  For me personally–it was an essential step in the path to my diagnosis and subsequent treatment.

                                          Mat
                                          Participant

                                            A heightened LDH level (330) led to me being scanned, which then led to my diagnosis (IV).  However, before ordering the scan, my doctor (a mel specialist) had my LDH re-tested noting that there can often be a false positive.  In fact, my doctor would not order the scan until the LDH was re-tested to confirm (this was true even though I also had a small subcutaneous mass–later determined to be mel).  My point is not that I think you should be concerned (particularly since your level is much lower).  Rather, I'd ask to have your LDH re-tested–both now and maybe again in a few weeks.  Other posters will tell you that LDH is not a good indicator of metastasis.  Maybe they're right–I haven't done the research.  For me personally–it was an essential step in the path to my diagnosis and subsequent treatment.

                                            Nadia
                                            Participant

                                              Hubby was diagnosed Stage IV in August 2013  via FNA and confirmed by PET/CT in Sept 2013, no cancer symptoms, only a nodule in lower abdomen area.  His LDH level were never higher than 175 and I always was confused by this.  What am I missing here?

                                              Nadia
                                              Participant

                                                Hubby was diagnosed Stage IV in August 2013  via FNA and confirmed by PET/CT in Sept 2013, no cancer symptoms, only a nodule in lower abdomen area.  His LDH level were never higher than 175 and I always was confused by this.  What am I missing here?

                                                  BrianP
                                                  Participant

                                                    Maria,

                                                    I think the bottom line is that LDH is just a test that Doctors commonly use as a "possible" indicator for melanoma or other cancers.  Basically LDH is a enzyme that is released into the blood through a break down in body tissue.  When cancer is spreading in the body and causing tissue breakdown LDH is released into the blood and can be detected by doing a LDH blood test.  Low or normal LDH levels is no gurantee that you don't have cancer just as a high LDH blood test wouldn't be a guarantee that you did have cancer but a high test would definitely warrant further study.  I think doctors like to use it because it's a fairly cheap and quick results.  Like your husband I had some fairly extensive melanoma in my intestines which was eventually found through a endoscopy procedure but my LDH levels were normal.

                                                    Brian

                                                    BrianP
                                                    Participant

                                                      Maria,

                                                      I think the bottom line is that LDH is just a test that Doctors commonly use as a "possible" indicator for melanoma or other cancers.  Basically LDH is a enzyme that is released into the blood through a break down in body tissue.  When cancer is spreading in the body and causing tissue breakdown LDH is released into the blood and can be detected by doing a LDH blood test.  Low or normal LDH levels is no gurantee that you don't have cancer just as a high LDH blood test wouldn't be a guarantee that you did have cancer but a high test would definitely warrant further study.  I think doctors like to use it because it's a fairly cheap and quick results.  Like your husband I had some fairly extensive melanoma in my intestines which was eventually found through a endoscopy procedure but my LDH levels were normal.

                                                      Brian

                                                      BrianP
                                                      Participant

                                                        Maria,

                                                        I think the bottom line is that LDH is just a test that Doctors commonly use as a "possible" indicator for melanoma or other cancers.  Basically LDH is a enzyme that is released into the blood through a break down in body tissue.  When cancer is spreading in the body and causing tissue breakdown LDH is released into the blood and can be detected by doing a LDH blood test.  Low or normal LDH levels is no gurantee that you don't have cancer just as a high LDH blood test wouldn't be a guarantee that you did have cancer but a high test would definitely warrant further study.  I think doctors like to use it because it's a fairly cheap and quick results.  Like your husband I had some fairly extensive melanoma in my intestines which was eventually found through a endoscopy procedure but my LDH levels were normal.

                                                        Brian

                                                      Nadia
                                                      Participant

                                                        Hubby was diagnosed Stage IV in August 2013  via FNA and confirmed by PET/CT in Sept 2013, no cancer symptoms, only a nodule in lower abdomen area.  His LDH level were never higher than 175 and I always was confused by this.  What am I missing here?

                                                        JerryfromFauq
                                                        Participant

                                                          Check out thee resources referred to on this page.   http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/ldh/

                                                          My LDH levels have stayed within the normal range, regardless of my status.   LDH is also an indicator as to how some treatment are apt to work on one.

                                                          JerryfromFauq
                                                          Participant

                                                            Check out thee resources referred to on this page.   http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/ldh/

                                                            My LDH levels have stayed within the normal range, regardless of my status.   LDH is also an indicator as to how some treatment are apt to work on one.

                                                            JerryfromFauq
                                                            Participant

                                                              Check out thee resources referred to on this page.   http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/ldh/

                                                              My LDH levels have stayed within the normal range, regardless of my status.   LDH is also an indicator as to how some treatment are apt to work on one.

                                                              Colleen66
                                                              Participant

                                                                I just wanted to add, my LDH has always been low (in the 90's) and only breached 100 once when I had active disease.  As previously suggested, in certain people it may not be a strong indicator of anything,  On the flip side, since my level runs in the 90's, If it does bump up it could mean something even though it is well below Normal.  I believe having a long time span of level checks can find your personal normal and only then does it become diagnostic.

                                                                Colleen

                                                                Colleen66
                                                                Participant

                                                                  I just wanted to add, my LDH has always been low (in the 90's) and only breached 100 once when I had active disease.  As previously suggested, in certain people it may not be a strong indicator of anything,  On the flip side, since my level runs in the 90's, If it does bump up it could mean something even though it is well below Normal.  I believe having a long time span of level checks can find your personal normal and only then does it become diagnostic.

                                                                  Colleen

                                                                  Colleen66
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    I just wanted to add, my LDH has always been low (in the 90's) and only breached 100 once when I had active disease.  As previously suggested, in certain people it may not be a strong indicator of anything,  On the flip side, since my level runs in the 90's, If it does bump up it could mean something even though it is well below Normal.  I believe having a long time span of level checks can find your personal normal and only then does it become diagnostic.

                                                                    Colleen

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