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      JoshF
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        I saw this on your blog…lot of good info…where's the the interpretation? smiley

        Curious on the PD-L1…is that something tumor should be tested for? I guess what I'm coming to wonder is what testing should be done on tumor as it relates to treatments tha will work.

        My example: at Loyola for the TCR trial they look for HLA-A2 expression in blood and tumor as well as tyrosinaise. I'm good there and qualify but brain mri can exclude if mets show up…think I would need them treated first.

        At MD, they're looking for a higher resolution blood test on HLA….HLA-A201. Waiting for resultsindecision. For the tumor they're looking for Mart-1 expression which I had. I also think here that you can have a few brain mets and qualify.

        So should I be looking or requesting further testing? All this waiting makes me feel like this shit will kill me before I even get treated. What a shit show!!!

        Also not sure if mentioned that now I'm getting what appears to be vitiligo on my face. My wife said to me other day…what's going on there? Really?? I heard in past that it's good indication of immune response to treatment…so ironic.

        Anyway, appreciate the info as usual Bubbles!!!

        Love,

        Joshie

        JoshF
        Participant

          I saw this on your blog…lot of good info…where's the the interpretation? smiley

          Curious on the PD-L1…is that something tumor should be tested for? I guess what I'm coming to wonder is what testing should be done on tumor as it relates to treatments tha will work.

          My example: at Loyola for the TCR trial they look for HLA-A2 expression in blood and tumor as well as tyrosinaise. I'm good there and qualify but brain mri can exclude if mets show up…think I would need them treated first.

          At MD, they're looking for a higher resolution blood test on HLA….HLA-A201. Waiting for resultsindecision. For the tumor they're looking for Mart-1 expression which I had. I also think here that you can have a few brain mets and qualify.

          So should I be looking or requesting further testing? All this waiting makes me feel like this shit will kill me before I even get treated. What a shit show!!!

          Also not sure if mentioned that now I'm getting what appears to be vitiligo on my face. My wife said to me other day…what's going on there? Really?? I heard in past that it's good indication of immune response to treatment…so ironic.

          Anyway, appreciate the info as usual Bubbles!!!

          Love,

          Joshie

          JoshF
          Participant

            I saw this on your blog…lot of good info…where's the the interpretation? smiley

            Curious on the PD-L1…is that something tumor should be tested for? I guess what I'm coming to wonder is what testing should be done on tumor as it relates to treatments tha will work.

            My example: at Loyola for the TCR trial they look for HLA-A2 expression in blood and tumor as well as tyrosinaise. I'm good there and qualify but brain mri can exclude if mets show up…think I would need them treated first.

            At MD, they're looking for a higher resolution blood test on HLA….HLA-A201. Waiting for resultsindecision. For the tumor they're looking for Mart-1 expression which I had. I also think here that you can have a few brain mets and qualify.

            So should I be looking or requesting further testing? All this waiting makes me feel like this shit will kill me before I even get treated. What a shit show!!!

            Also not sure if mentioned that now I'm getting what appears to be vitiligo on my face. My wife said to me other day…what's going on there? Really?? I heard in past that it's good indication of immune response to treatment…so ironic.

            Anyway, appreciate the info as usual Bubbles!!!

            Love,

            Joshie

              ed williams
              Participant

                Hi Josh, I left you a link on your earlier post that covers Pd-L1 staining. There is another source called peerview on twitter, I haven't tried to send a link to twitter before so here it goes. https://twitter.com/PeerView     Josh, if you scroll down to June 8th and look at the link to ImmunoOncology, "did you miss this presentation from about a month ago" clink on the link near the bottom. It will take you to an excellent presentation from Dr. Omid Hamid. I can't remember if you have to join peerview to be able to watch, if you do don't worry about junk mail, I haven't been getting any. Best Wishes!!! Ed

                ed williams
                Participant

                  Hi Josh, I left you a link on your earlier post that covers Pd-L1 staining. There is another source called peerview on twitter, I haven't tried to send a link to twitter before so here it goes. https://twitter.com/PeerView     Josh, if you scroll down to June 8th and look at the link to ImmunoOncology, "did you miss this presentation from about a month ago" clink on the link near the bottom. It will take you to an excellent presentation from Dr. Omid Hamid. I can't remember if you have to join peerview to be able to watch, if you do don't worry about junk mail, I haven't been getting any. Best Wishes!!! Ed

                  ed williams
                  Participant

                    Hi Josh, I left you a link on your earlier post that covers Pd-L1 staining. There is another source called peerview on twitter, I haven't tried to send a link to twitter before so here it goes. https://twitter.com/PeerView     Josh, if you scroll down to June 8th and look at the link to ImmunoOncology, "did you miss this presentation from about a month ago" clink on the link near the bottom. It will take you to an excellent presentation from Dr. Omid Hamid. I can't remember if you have to join peerview to be able to watch, if you do don't worry about junk mail, I haven't been getting any. Best Wishes!!! Ed

                    ed williams
                    Participant

                      Sorry Josh the link system won't allow it. I guess the best way in, is to go to Twitter and search Peerview then go to june 8th to find the presentation. I found it as a link on Dr. Omid Hamid's twitter account a couple of weeks ago.Take care!!! Ed

                      ed williams
                      Participant

                        Sorry Josh the link system won't allow it. I guess the best way in, is to go to Twitter and search Peerview then go to june 8th to find the presentation. I found it as a link on Dr. Omid Hamid's twitter account a couple of weeks ago.Take care!!! Ed

                        ed williams
                        Participant

                          Sorry Josh the link system won't allow it. I guess the best way in, is to go to Twitter and search Peerview then go to june 8th to find the presentation. I found it as a link on Dr. Omid Hamid's twitter account a couple of weeks ago.Take care!!! Ed

                          ed williams
                          Participant

                            Josh here are the twitter addresses, @ PeerView and Dr. Hamid is   @ Omid Hamid MD 

                            JoshF
                            Participant

                              Can't find it Ed. I went on his Twitter account to…nothing under June 8th. I'm going to keep looking.

                              Thanks!!!!

                              ed williams
                              Participant

                                Hi Josh, it is on Peerview's twitter page on june 8th, I found the presentation back in May on Dr. Omid's twitter page!!! It is worth finding, it is kind of like the presentation that Celeste gave you with him explaining the slides and many slides cover the new drugs and trials that are out there. Take Care!!! Ed

                                ed williams
                                Participant

                                  Hi Josh, it is on Peerview's twitter page on june 8th, I found the presentation back in May on Dr. Omid's twitter page!!! It is worth finding, it is kind of like the presentation that Celeste gave you with him explaining the slides and many slides cover the new drugs and trials that are out there. Take Care!!! Ed

                                  ed williams
                                  Participant

                                    Hi Josh, it is on Peerview's twitter page on june 8th, I found the presentation back in May on Dr. Omid's twitter page!!! It is worth finding, it is kind of like the presentation that Celeste gave you with him explaining the slides and many slides cover the new drugs and trials that are out there. Take Care!!! Ed

                                    JoshF
                                    Participant

                                      Can't find it Ed. I went on his Twitter account to…nothing under June 8th. I'm going to keep looking.

                                      Thanks!!!!

                                      JoshF
                                      Participant

                                        Can't find it Ed. I went on his Twitter account to…nothing under June 8th. I'm going to keep looking.

                                        Thanks!!!!

                                        ed williams
                                        Participant

                                          Josh here are the twitter addresses, @ PeerView and Dr. Hamid is   @ Omid Hamid MD 

                                          ed williams
                                          Participant

                                            Josh here are the twitter addresses, @ PeerView and Dr. Hamid is   @ Omid Hamid MD 

                                          Bubbles
                                          Participant

                                            Are you 'joshing' me, Joshie????  Guess I was tired!!!  Plus…I know most of you know all that stuff anyway…just thought it was a nice collection of pics/graphs. (And I knew Ed or Mat or Gary or Brian would cover me!!!!)

                                            As far as PD-L1 testing…  First of all….it is not 100% an end-all, be-all regarding response.  If you remember from Weber and Agarwala's discussion…bottom of this post:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2015/09/pick-your-poison-weber-and-agarwala.html

                                            ….PD-L1 positive patients would probably do just as well on nivo alone, while PD-L1 negative patients should probably go ahead and take the combo.  I'm not sure how important testing would be for you at this point as you have already had both.  Although….if you KNEW you were PD-L1 negative…it might bolster the argument to take ipi/nivo TOGETHER…and perhaps you would get a response as both Mat and Gary have experienced.

                                            Yes, weird as it is (since it feels kind of like one more insult…says the woman whose skin now looks like a giant Rorschach test) vitiligo is a good prognositic sign!!!  So….if you have vitiligo….your t-cells are fired up!

                                            And – you encapsulated working to find and qualify for a trial very well….a shit show!!!  For certain!!!  You can get into one if you have this.  You can't get into this one because of this.  Yes, no….yes, no!!!  Sorry, buddy.  Put your docs to work in searching for options.  Call the trial coordinator about ANY you are REMOTELY interested.  Never hurts to hear what they have to say.

                                            Hope you are geting rested and healing well.  Love you!  Celeste

                                            Bubbles
                                            Participant

                                              Are you 'joshing' me, Joshie????  Guess I was tired!!!  Plus…I know most of you know all that stuff anyway…just thought it was a nice collection of pics/graphs. (And I knew Ed or Mat or Gary or Brian would cover me!!!!)

                                              As far as PD-L1 testing…  First of all….it is not 100% an end-all, be-all regarding response.  If you remember from Weber and Agarwala's discussion…bottom of this post:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2015/09/pick-your-poison-weber-and-agarwala.html

                                              ….PD-L1 positive patients would probably do just as well on nivo alone, while PD-L1 negative patients should probably go ahead and take the combo.  I'm not sure how important testing would be for you at this point as you have already had both.  Although….if you KNEW you were PD-L1 negative…it might bolster the argument to take ipi/nivo TOGETHER…and perhaps you would get a response as both Mat and Gary have experienced.

                                              Yes, weird as it is (since it feels kind of like one more insult…says the woman whose skin now looks like a giant Rorschach test) vitiligo is a good prognositic sign!!!  So….if you have vitiligo….your t-cells are fired up!

                                              And – you encapsulated working to find and qualify for a trial very well….a shit show!!!  For certain!!!  You can get into one if you have this.  You can't get into this one because of this.  Yes, no….yes, no!!!  Sorry, buddy.  Put your docs to work in searching for options.  Call the trial coordinator about ANY you are REMOTELY interested.  Never hurts to hear what they have to say.

                                              Hope you are geting rested and healing well.  Love you!  Celeste

                                              Bubbles
                                              Participant

                                                Are you 'joshing' me, Joshie????  Guess I was tired!!!  Plus…I know most of you know all that stuff anyway…just thought it was a nice collection of pics/graphs. (And I knew Ed or Mat or Gary or Brian would cover me!!!!)

                                                As far as PD-L1 testing…  First of all….it is not 100% an end-all, be-all regarding response.  If you remember from Weber and Agarwala's discussion…bottom of this post:  http://chaoticallypreciselifeloveandmelanoma.blogspot.com/2015/09/pick-your-poison-weber-and-agarwala.html

                                                ….PD-L1 positive patients would probably do just as well on nivo alone, while PD-L1 negative patients should probably go ahead and take the combo.  I'm not sure how important testing would be for you at this point as you have already had both.  Although….if you KNEW you were PD-L1 negative…it might bolster the argument to take ipi/nivo TOGETHER…and perhaps you would get a response as both Mat and Gary have experienced.

                                                Yes, weird as it is (since it feels kind of like one more insult…says the woman whose skin now looks like a giant Rorschach test) vitiligo is a good prognositic sign!!!  So….if you have vitiligo….your t-cells are fired up!

                                                And – you encapsulated working to find and qualify for a trial very well….a shit show!!!  For certain!!!  You can get into one if you have this.  You can't get into this one because of this.  Yes, no….yes, no!!!  Sorry, buddy.  Put your docs to work in searching for options.  Call the trial coordinator about ANY you are REMOTELY interested.  Never hurts to hear what they have to say.

                                                Hope you are geting rested and healing well.  Love you!  Celeste

                                                Polymath
                                                Participant

                                                  Thanks Celeste for posting this graphic presentation.  It is really difficult for me, a "lay person" to understand so much of the jargon, medical terminology, and chemical interactions inherent in doing melanoma research.  The pictures do help explain the data which could be valuable to many.  But I don't cut my own hair, nor would I try and represent myself in court on a serious legal matter.  There are things better left to experts, and it's why I've relied on my doctor to help guide me through the process, make suggestions on treatments.  It would seem he always has another tool in the toolbox should the current treatment fail.  While it's common to preach here, about making one's own choices in treatment, if you don't really understand it and it would take more than a medical degree to do so, then perhaps its time to defer to others. (Charlie's points about incompetent doctors duly noted) Thinking about Josh stressing over the next choice in treatment, trying to understand it all.  It really is all too much.  They say the simplest answer is usually the correct one.  The next "logical" treatment, whenever possible, should be something fresh, but has proven results.  Unless my doctor told me otherwise, I would choose that over any trial with no substantial data to prove it would be the better choice. The idea is to just delay, delay, delay, until hopefully the silver bullet is discovered, before reaching the pearly gates.  

                                                  Gary

                                                   

                                                  Polymath
                                                  Participant

                                                    Thanks Celeste for posting this graphic presentation.  It is really difficult for me, a "lay person" to understand so much of the jargon, medical terminology, and chemical interactions inherent in doing melanoma research.  The pictures do help explain the data which could be valuable to many.  But I don't cut my own hair, nor would I try and represent myself in court on a serious legal matter.  There are things better left to experts, and it's why I've relied on my doctor to help guide me through the process, make suggestions on treatments.  It would seem he always has another tool in the toolbox should the current treatment fail.  While it's common to preach here, about making one's own choices in treatment, if you don't really understand it and it would take more than a medical degree to do so, then perhaps its time to defer to others. (Charlie's points about incompetent doctors duly noted) Thinking about Josh stressing over the next choice in treatment, trying to understand it all.  It really is all too much.  They say the simplest answer is usually the correct one.  The next "logical" treatment, whenever possible, should be something fresh, but has proven results.  Unless my doctor told me otherwise, I would choose that over any trial with no substantial data to prove it would be the better choice. The idea is to just delay, delay, delay, until hopefully the silver bullet is discovered, before reaching the pearly gates.  

                                                    Gary

                                                     

                                                    Polymath
                                                    Participant

                                                      Thanks Celeste for posting this graphic presentation.  It is really difficult for me, a "lay person" to understand so much of the jargon, medical terminology, and chemical interactions inherent in doing melanoma research.  The pictures do help explain the data which could be valuable to many.  But I don't cut my own hair, nor would I try and represent myself in court on a serious legal matter.  There are things better left to experts, and it's why I've relied on my doctor to help guide me through the process, make suggestions on treatments.  It would seem he always has another tool in the toolbox should the current treatment fail.  While it's common to preach here, about making one's own choices in treatment, if you don't really understand it and it would take more than a medical degree to do so, then perhaps its time to defer to others. (Charlie's points about incompetent doctors duly noted) Thinking about Josh stressing over the next choice in treatment, trying to understand it all.  It really is all too much.  They say the simplest answer is usually the correct one.  The next "logical" treatment, whenever possible, should be something fresh, but has proven results.  Unless my doctor told me otherwise, I would choose that over any trial with no substantial data to prove it would be the better choice. The idea is to just delay, delay, delay, until hopefully the silver bullet is discovered, before reaching the pearly gates.  

                                                      Gary

                                                       

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