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    Johngifford
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      Went to optometrist had images from two years ago when I visited him last month he said he found something that had grown significantly in the two years probably choroidal melanoma. so I went to my primary doctor Dr. Bailey's office in Ventura got referral for retina specialist Dr. Hung at Seaview medical Center nice doctor she agreed with diagnosis and wanted to send me to UCLA the closest and really only ophthalmolic oncology center in our area. so back to my primary doctor to get referral from my blue shield HMO, so their reply came back last Friday, need to be seen inside our network, and they referred me back to Seaview. Who had already told me I need to go somewhere else. And that my tumor is stable, which is not true. And I do not know where they got that from. I am frustrated, and I feel like too much time is going by. I don't know how to handle this Hmo Any response would be appreciated thank you John

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        Bubbles
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          So sorry you are having to deal with a dreadful disease and horrible insurance company execs at the same time, John.  I would fight with the company personally, but your best advocate who can justify your need for a specialist is the doc who referred you.  They can call and/or write a letter of appeal that notes the standard of care required for a patient with your diagnosis….even if it necessitates your seeing someone outside "the network".  Sadly, primary care providers are very familiar with this process and should be willing to help you.  Yours, Celeste

          Bubbles
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            So sorry you are having to deal with a dreadful disease and horrible insurance company execs at the same time, John.  I would fight with the company personally, but your best advocate who can justify your need for a specialist is the doc who referred you.  They can call and/or write a letter of appeal that notes the standard of care required for a patient with your diagnosis….even if it necessitates your seeing someone outside "the network".  Sadly, primary care providers are very familiar with this process and should be willing to help you.  Yours, Celeste

            Bubbles
            Participant

              So sorry you are having to deal with a dreadful disease and horrible insurance company execs at the same time, John.  I would fight with the company personally, but your best advocate who can justify your need for a specialist is the doc who referred you.  They can call and/or write a letter of appeal that notes the standard of care required for a patient with your diagnosis….even if it necessitates your seeing someone outside "the network".  Sadly, primary care providers are very familiar with this process and should be willing to help you.  Yours, Celeste

                Johngifford
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                  Thank you so much for your reply Celeste. That is exactly what I was hoping for when I found this website people with experience compassion and great advice.  Your information on the letter of appeal from my doctor thank you great advice

                  Johngifford
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                    Thank you so much for your reply Celeste. That is exactly what I was hoping for when I found this website people with experience compassion and great advice.  Your information on the letter of appeal from my doctor thank you great advice

                    Johngifford
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                      Thank you so much for your reply Celeste. That is exactly what I was hoping for when I found this website people with experience compassion and great advice.  Your information on the letter of appeal from my doctor thank you great advice

                    LuckyMan51
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                      John,

                      You should absolutely appeal this. If you call your HMO they can give you instructions how to start the appeal process. See if you can get somebody at Seaview to shoot you an email that you need to be seen by somebody else so you have a hard copy to work off.   Start a file and keep copies of every correspondence you have. The process can be brutal but worth it when you prevail, which you will if you attack this the right way. UnitedHealthcare is my insurance carrier and they were ok for getting treatments but horrifying to try to get reimbursements from for out of network Dr's. It's interesting how UnitedHealthcare wouldn't allow you to get a name of anybody in appeals or even a phone number but they just give you fax numbers that didn't work 90% of the time. Keep a very solid file and if needed be prepared to send it to your states district attorneys office or the state insurance commissioner. Always follow up with the insurer in a timely fashion and don't be surprised when they lose your file, say they need more information but of course neglected to tell you they needed something. Another way to get attention is explain the situation to your employers human resources person who handles medical benefits. I'd bet yours, like mine, would be happy to reach out to their contact and let them know that they are an interested party. If they get rough on you send your company's CEO an email explaining how poor his ill employee is being treated and you need his help. Getting through the melanoma is a full time job and this insurance stuff is pretty disgusting but if you stay organized and diligent on it you should be able to get what you need. Try your best to be very honest and very firm but don't start screaming at these people. Most of them are idiots who are poorly supervised and are living paycheck to paycheck holding people like us off from getting approved or paid for treatment. After going down this road so many times I always ask for the supervisor immediatly as they have more experience and understand what you mean when you tell them that your file is going to your CEO, the state insurance commissioner and the district attorneys office. Good luck. Keep the faith. Stay on it. You'll get there. 

                      LuckyMan51
                      Participant

                        John,

                        You should absolutely appeal this. If you call your HMO they can give you instructions how to start the appeal process. See if you can get somebody at Seaview to shoot you an email that you need to be seen by somebody else so you have a hard copy to work off.   Start a file and keep copies of every correspondence you have. The process can be brutal but worth it when you prevail, which you will if you attack this the right way. UnitedHealthcare is my insurance carrier and they were ok for getting treatments but horrifying to try to get reimbursements from for out of network Dr's. It's interesting how UnitedHealthcare wouldn't allow you to get a name of anybody in appeals or even a phone number but they just give you fax numbers that didn't work 90% of the time. Keep a very solid file and if needed be prepared to send it to your states district attorneys office or the state insurance commissioner. Always follow up with the insurer in a timely fashion and don't be surprised when they lose your file, say they need more information but of course neglected to tell you they needed something. Another way to get attention is explain the situation to your employers human resources person who handles medical benefits. I'd bet yours, like mine, would be happy to reach out to their contact and let them know that they are an interested party. If they get rough on you send your company's CEO an email explaining how poor his ill employee is being treated and you need his help. Getting through the melanoma is a full time job and this insurance stuff is pretty disgusting but if you stay organized and diligent on it you should be able to get what you need. Try your best to be very honest and very firm but don't start screaming at these people. Most of them are idiots who are poorly supervised and are living paycheck to paycheck holding people like us off from getting approved or paid for treatment. After going down this road so many times I always ask for the supervisor immediatly as they have more experience and understand what you mean when you tell them that your file is going to your CEO, the state insurance commissioner and the district attorneys office. Good luck. Keep the faith. Stay on it. You'll get there. 

                        LuckyMan51
                        Participant

                          John,

                          You should absolutely appeal this. If you call your HMO they can give you instructions how to start the appeal process. See if you can get somebody at Seaview to shoot you an email that you need to be seen by somebody else so you have a hard copy to work off.   Start a file and keep copies of every correspondence you have. The process can be brutal but worth it when you prevail, which you will if you attack this the right way. UnitedHealthcare is my insurance carrier and they were ok for getting treatments but horrifying to try to get reimbursements from for out of network Dr's. It's interesting how UnitedHealthcare wouldn't allow you to get a name of anybody in appeals or even a phone number but they just give you fax numbers that didn't work 90% of the time. Keep a very solid file and if needed be prepared to send it to your states district attorneys office or the state insurance commissioner. Always follow up with the insurer in a timely fashion and don't be surprised when they lose your file, say they need more information but of course neglected to tell you they needed something. Another way to get attention is explain the situation to your employers human resources person who handles medical benefits. I'd bet yours, like mine, would be happy to reach out to their contact and let them know that they are an interested party. If they get rough on you send your company's CEO an email explaining how poor his ill employee is being treated and you need his help. Getting through the melanoma is a full time job and this insurance stuff is pretty disgusting but if you stay organized and diligent on it you should be able to get what you need. Try your best to be very honest and very firm but don't start screaming at these people. Most of them are idiots who are poorly supervised and are living paycheck to paycheck holding people like us off from getting approved or paid for treatment. After going down this road so many times I always ask for the supervisor immediatly as they have more experience and understand what you mean when you tell them that your file is going to your CEO, the state insurance commissioner and the district attorneys office. Good luck. Keep the faith. Stay on it. You'll get there. 

                          Linny
                          Participant

                            I am so sorry to hear you're going through all this aggravation. You've been given good advice about appealing this.

                            Your experience is precisely why I refuse to deal with HMOs. If it's possible for you, your next option might be to consider switching from the HMO to a PPO. HMOs may be fine for run-of-the-mill conditions but as you've already learned, yours is anything but run-of-the-mill.

                              Johngifford
                              Participant

                                Great news went to follow up at my primary doctor and they told me the HMO had just granted the approval letter to go to UCLA ophthalmology   Oncology center. Outside of their network. Dr Tara mcannel.    Thank The Lord.    And thank you for all the supportive posts.     Took a few months but now I know I am in good hands .   Now more eqipped to fight the good fight.   

                                Linny
                                Participant

                                  Woohoo!!! I am so glad to hear that you were able to work things out with your insurance company. Best of luck to you over at UCLA.

                                  Linny
                                  Participant

                                    Woohoo!!! I am so glad to hear that you were able to work things out with your insurance company. Best of luck to you over at UCLA.

                                    Johngifford
                                    Participant

                                      Thanks will update you on ucla

                                      Johngifford
                                      Participant

                                        Thanks will update you on ucla

                                        Johngifford
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                                          Thanks will update you on ucla

                                          Linny
                                          Participant

                                            Woohoo!!! I am so glad to hear that you were able to work things out with your insurance company. Best of luck to you over at UCLA.

                                            Johngifford
                                            Participant

                                              Great news went to follow up at my primary doctor and they told me the HMO had just granted the approval letter to go to UCLA ophthalmology   Oncology center. Outside of their network. Dr Tara mcannel.    Thank The Lord.    And thank you for all the supportive posts.     Took a few months but now I know I am in good hands .   Now more eqipped to fight the good fight.   

                                              Johngifford
                                              Participant

                                                Great news went to follow up at my primary doctor and they told me the HMO had just granted the approval letter to go to UCLA ophthalmology   Oncology center. Outside of their network. Dr Tara mcannel.    Thank The Lord.    And thank you for all the supportive posts.     Took a few months but now I know I am in good hands .   Now more eqipped to fight the good fight.   

                                              Linny
                                              Participant

                                                I am so sorry to hear you're going through all this aggravation. You've been given good advice about appealing this.

                                                Your experience is precisely why I refuse to deal with HMOs. If it's possible for you, your next option might be to consider switching from the HMO to a PPO. HMOs may be fine for run-of-the-mill conditions but as you've already learned, yours is anything but run-of-the-mill.

                                                Linny
                                                Participant

                                                  I am so sorry to hear you're going through all this aggravation. You've been given good advice about appealing this.

                                                  Your experience is precisely why I refuse to deal with HMOs. If it's possible for you, your next option might be to consider switching from the HMO to a PPO. HMOs may be fine for run-of-the-mill conditions but as you've already learned, yours is anything but run-of-the-mill.

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