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    manu000
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      My girlfriend just before his 25 years was diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma metastases, has been affected to the brain and  lung and other lymph nodes, in the neck, in the abdomen and in the left leg.
      She has already faced an surgery radio therapy (gamma kinfe) to the head and started a new treatment "ipilimumab+fotemustina (Muphoran).
      The treatment effects did not know that they have, but it certainly she is not feeling well. Is losing its vitality and even his work with disabled boy start to have problems.
      Someone has experience with this therapy?

      My girlfriend just before his 25 years was diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma metastases, has been affected to the brain and  lung and other lymph nodes, in the neck, in the abdomen and in the left leg.
      She has already faced an surgery radio therapy (gamma kinfe) to the head and started a new treatment "ipilimumab+fotemustina (Muphoran).
      The treatment effects did not know that they have, but it certainly she is not feeling well. Is losing its vitality and even his work with disabled boy start to have problems.
      Someone has experience with this therapy?
      I am believes that this is only a moment along our lives, and that we can overcome it.
      I believe she is doing in therapy, but in the meantime I am also informing about various alternative treatments. You have experience about it?
      I informed myself on the Gerson method, Di Bella.
      Now, after reading his story, the journey to Ginny Fraiser (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article715413.ece), knew her history? what do you think about?

      thanks to all

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        FormerCaregiver
        Participant

          Welcome to our forum. Sorry to read that your girlfriend is stage 4. Ipilimumab (Yervoy)
          and fotemustine sounds like an interesting combination.

          Fotemustine is a type of chemotherapy that crosses the blood brain barrier and therefore
          could help with any brain mets. It has side effects that are the same as with other types
          of chemo. See:
          http://www.cancervic.org.au/about-cancer/types-treatments-trials/chemotherapy/side_effects_of_chemotherapy.html

          There are people here who are being treated with Yervoy. Hopefully they will give you
          their opinions on it.

          If your girlfriend is considering alternative treatments, please read this first:
          http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html

          Hope this helps.

          Frank from Australia

          FormerCaregiver
          Participant

            Welcome to our forum. Sorry to read that your girlfriend is stage 4. Ipilimumab (Yervoy)
            and fotemustine sounds like an interesting combination.

            Fotemustine is a type of chemotherapy that crosses the blood brain barrier and therefore
            could help with any brain mets. It has side effects that are the same as with other types
            of chemo. See:
            http://www.cancervic.org.au/about-cancer/types-treatments-trials/chemotherapy/side_effects_of_chemotherapy.html

            There are people here who are being treated with Yervoy. Hopefully they will give you
            their opinions on it.

            If your girlfriend is considering alternative treatments, please read this first:
            http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html

            Hope this helps.

            Frank from Australia

            lhaley
            Participant

              I'm sorry you've had to join us and that your young girlfriend is so sick.  

              The alternative therapies that you mentioned have been talked about here before.   I only remember one person several years ago that decided to go to Mexico to follow up on one of the treatments.  He did pass away but we did not believe that he ever went to get the treatment.   If they had been proven to work I'm sure many here would have tried it. You have to be careful of programs you hear about on the internet that claim a cure.  We only wish they were true.

              You might want to have the hospital check you girlfriends tumor for the b-raf mutation. There are trials around the world for the drug. They also have trials for people with brain metastices.  The trial group would test the tumor (if a local lab does it the trial people just test it themselves anyway) to see if she has the right mutation. 

              I hope you find something quickly that will slow this down for her.

              Linda

              lhaley
              Participant

                I'm sorry you've had to join us and that your young girlfriend is so sick.  

                The alternative therapies that you mentioned have been talked about here before.   I only remember one person several years ago that decided to go to Mexico to follow up on one of the treatments.  He did pass away but we did not believe that he ever went to get the treatment.   If they had been proven to work I'm sure many here would have tried it. You have to be careful of programs you hear about on the internet that claim a cure.  We only wish they were true.

                You might want to have the hospital check you girlfriends tumor for the b-raf mutation. There are trials around the world for the drug. They also have trials for people with brain metastices.  The trial group would test the tumor (if a local lab does it the trial people just test it themselves anyway) to see if she has the right mutation. 

                I hope you find something quickly that will slow this down for her.

                Linda

                  manu000
                  Participant

                    Thanks to all for the welcome and thanks for the advice you give me.
                    Unfortunately I am in this situation and want to know everything that is possible with your help and I hope to learn more.

                    Before I forget that it was found the B-RAF mutation.

                    thanks

                    manu000
                    Participant

                      Thanks to all for the welcome and thanks for the advice you give me.
                      Unfortunately I am in this situation and want to know everything that is possible with your help and I hope to learn more.

                      Before I forget that it was found the B-RAF mutation.

                      thanks

                    MichaelFL
                    Participant

                      Hi,

                      I see that you are in Italy.

                      I could find no trials with ipilimumab and +fotemustine at clinicaltrials.gov. Is she being given this in a trial or compassionate use?

                      I understand you are doing all you can, but please be cautious of things like the Gerson therapy, Neoplas, and things of that nature. It is expensive, was discredited by NCI, not proven by other outside studies, and no conclusions about the effectiveness of the Gerson therapy, either as an adjuvant to other cancer therapies or as a cure, can be drawn from any of the studies they reported.

                      Here is some reading on Gerson Therapy from NCI:

                      http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/gerson/healthprofessional

                      Just click on anything you wish to read on the left side of the page.

                      As for Ginny Fraiser, we do not know her story or specific circumstances. She has written a book, and I believe she is a cancer coach, so I think she has much to gain by keeping her story out there.

                      It is good that she is BRAF positive, this may open up some trials that may buy her some time until something else can be tried.

                      Whatever you both decide to do, please make her doctors aware of it, so it is not in conflict with her treatments.

                      Michael

                      MichaelFL
                      Participant

                        Hi,

                        I see that you are in Italy.

                        I could find no trials with ipilimumab and +fotemustine at clinicaltrials.gov. Is she being given this in a trial or compassionate use?

                        I understand you are doing all you can, but please be cautious of things like the Gerson therapy, Neoplas, and things of that nature. It is expensive, was discredited by NCI, not proven by other outside studies, and no conclusions about the effectiveness of the Gerson therapy, either as an adjuvant to other cancer therapies or as a cure, can be drawn from any of the studies they reported.

                        Here is some reading on Gerson Therapy from NCI:

                        http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/gerson/healthprofessional

                        Just click on anything you wish to read on the left side of the page.

                        As for Ginny Fraiser, we do not know her story or specific circumstances. She has written a book, and I believe she is a cancer coach, so I think she has much to gain by keeping her story out there.

                        It is good that she is BRAF positive, this may open up some trials that may buy her some time until something else can be tried.

                        Whatever you both decide to do, please make her doctors aware of it, so it is not in conflict with her treatments.

                        Michael

                          manu000
                          Participant

                            hi,

                            She became part of a trial protocol. What does it mean that this mix is not mentioned at clinicaltrials.gov?

                            thanks to all

                            manu000
                            Participant

                              hi,

                              She became part of a trial protocol. What does it mean that this mix is not mentioned at clinicaltrials.gov?

                              thanks to all

                              MichaelFL
                              Participant

                                Clinicaltrials.gov is a website I and others here use to search clinical trials.

                                It is a database of federally and privately supported clinical trials conducted in the United States and around the world.

                                You can check it below: Just type melanoma and which drug or drugs you are interested in and trials will come up.

                                http://clinicaltrials.gov/

                                Michael

                                MichaelFL
                                Participant

                                  Clinicaltrials.gov is a website I and others here use to search clinical trials.

                                  It is a database of federally and privately supported clinical trials conducted in the United States and around the world.

                                  You can check it below: Just type melanoma and which drug or drugs you are interested in and trials will come up.

                                  http://clinicaltrials.gov/

                                  Michael

                                Charlie S
                                Participant

                                  You will not find me so kind as others.

                                  Here is an option………………….why don't you and you girlfriend fly here, then we will go to the hardware store,, buy some plastic tubing and a funnel along with a tarp

                                  Tthen we will stop at the grocery store and buy some coffee.

                                  When we get to my apartment, you put the tarp on my bed while I brew the coffee, then, when that is done, you hike her ass up in the air and I stick the plastic tubing up her ass, screw the funnel in at the top and pour the coffee in until she screams.

                                  The Gerson Therapy is no more sophisticated than that and it is pure bullshit and is only meant to prey on people like you.

                                  I'm all about complimentary medicine and fully endorse it, but the course you suggest is nothing more than a fools chase. and you are stupid , ill informed, mis informed and living in some fantasy land i f you think otherwise.

                                  I know this is harsh, but use your head for something besides a hatrack.

                                   

                                  Charlie S

                                  Charlie S
                                  Participant

                                    You will not find me so kind as others.

                                    Here is an option………………….why don't you and you girlfriend fly here, then we will go to the hardware store,, buy some plastic tubing and a funnel along with a tarp

                                    Tthen we will stop at the grocery store and buy some coffee.

                                    When we get to my apartment, you put the tarp on my bed while I brew the coffee, then, when that is done, you hike her ass up in the air and I stick the plastic tubing up her ass, screw the funnel in at the top and pour the coffee in until she screams.

                                    The Gerson Therapy is no more sophisticated than that and it is pure bullshit and is only meant to prey on people like you.

                                    I'm all about complimentary medicine and fully endorse it, but the course you suggest is nothing more than a fools chase. and you are stupid , ill informed, mis informed and living in some fantasy land i f you think otherwise.

                                    I know this is harsh, but use your head for something besides a hatrack.

                                     

                                    Charlie S

                                      manu000
                                      Participant

                                        Grazie Micheal, guarderò con attenzione il sito.

                                        Hi Charlie S,

                                        Posso comprendere ciò che cerchi di farmi capire. Però credo che anche tu prima di me ti sia informato riguardo queste terapie. Io voglio informarmi su tutto ciò che concerne le possibili cure, e con anche il vostro aiuto scartare quelle inefficaci.

                                        In ogni caso sono convinto che le terapie naturali abbiano degli effetti su molte patologie. Come un ruolo fondamentale lo ha anche la nostra psiche.

                                        In ogni caso ti ringrazio per la tua opinione

                                        manu000
                                        Participant

                                          Sorry for the haste I wrote in Italian

                                          Thanks Michael, I will watch carefully the site.

                                          Hi Charlie S

                                          I can understand what you want make me understand. But I believe that before me you also will be informed about these therapies. I want information on everything related to treatment options, and with your help also discard ineffective ones.

                                          In any case I am convinced that natural therapies have an effect on many diseases. As a fundamental role also our psyche.

                                          In any case, thank you for your opinion

                                          manu000
                                          Participant

                                            Sorry for the haste I wrote in Italian

                                            Thanks Michael, I will watch carefully the site.

                                            Hi Charlie S

                                            I can understand what you want make me understand. But I believe that before me you also will be informed about these therapies. I want information on everything related to treatment options, and with your help also discard ineffective ones.

                                            In any case I am convinced that natural therapies have an effect on many diseases. As a fundamental role also our psyche.

                                            In any case, thank you for your opinion

                                            manu000
                                            Participant

                                              Grazie Micheal, guarderò con attenzione il sito.

                                              Hi Charlie S,

                                              Posso comprendere ciò che cerchi di farmi capire. Però credo che anche tu prima di me ti sia informato riguardo queste terapie. Io voglio informarmi su tutto ciò che concerne le possibili cure, e con anche il vostro aiuto scartare quelle inefficaci.

                                              In ogni caso sono convinto che le terapie naturali abbiano degli effetti su molte patologie. Come un ruolo fondamentale lo ha anche la nostra psiche.

                                              In ogni caso ti ringrazio per la tua opinione

                                              boot2aboot
                                              Participant

                                                jeez Charlie, slow down, the guy is just frantic about his girlfriend…new to the waters and confused…but THERE is ONE point that is a good one you made…Fly to the U.S. go to MD Anderson along with all the medical records….

                                                 

                                                MANU>>>>>I agree with Charlie, stop with the alternative treatments…Find Yervoy NOW whereever you can get it…DO THIS NOW  BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

                                                lhaley
                                                Participant

                                                  reread what Manu wrote, she is on Yervoy.   It's easy to say to go to MD Anderson but if you are from another country I can't imagine how expensive it would be unless they have insurance that would cover.  It's also difficult to travel around the world when so ill and then to be away from family and familiar surroundings.  There are many considerations.

                                                  manu000
                                                  Participant

                                                    Although we leave for MD Anderson, what alternatives there could be?
                                                    We are now followed by an excellent center of Milan where they say that doctors are specialists who follow us about melanoma.

                                                    manu000
                                                    Participant

                                                      Although we leave for MD Anderson, what alternatives there could be?
                                                      We are now followed by an excellent center of Milan where they say that doctors are specialists who follow us about melanoma.

                                                      Lisa13
                                                      Participant

                                                        There are lots of alternative therapies out there, but my personal opinion is that they're wonderful to prevent cancers or heart disease, but once it's metastasized, it won't work to stop tumour growth. That being said, there is 1 person on this board who had brain and lung mets and has been NED for 10 years without any treatment other than mistletoe and other herbal injections. It worked for her, but she may be one of the very few who were lucky. Wonderful new medicine is available now for advanced melanoma and there are many people with Stage 4 melanoma who have beaten the odds and your girlfriend could be one of them.

                                                        I tried a cocktail of herbs and naturopathic medicine while I was Stage 3c. 2 months later, I had lung mets, so all that was for nothing. I truly believe that alternative medicine is wonderful for the immune system, general health and in some rare cases, has shrunk cancers, but I believe the clinical trials and new meds available are the best fighting chance we have. We just have to keep going until something better comes along to kill off melanoma like it does for other cancers.

                                                        Best of luck to you and your girlfriend. Don't ever give up!!

                                                        Lisa

                                                        Lisa13
                                                        Participant

                                                          There are lots of alternative therapies out there, but my personal opinion is that they're wonderful to prevent cancers or heart disease, but once it's metastasized, it won't work to stop tumour growth. That being said, there is 1 person on this board who had brain and lung mets and has been NED for 10 years without any treatment other than mistletoe and other herbal injections. It worked for her, but she may be one of the very few who were lucky. Wonderful new medicine is available now for advanced melanoma and there are many people with Stage 4 melanoma who have beaten the odds and your girlfriend could be one of them.

                                                          I tried a cocktail of herbs and naturopathic medicine while I was Stage 3c. 2 months later, I had lung mets, so all that was for nothing. I truly believe that alternative medicine is wonderful for the immune system, general health and in some rare cases, has shrunk cancers, but I believe the clinical trials and new meds available are the best fighting chance we have. We just have to keep going until something better comes along to kill off melanoma like it does for other cancers.

                                                          Best of luck to you and your girlfriend. Don't ever give up!!

                                                          Lisa

                                                          FormerCaregiver
                                                          Participant

                                                            Lisa, I really agree with your comments. As I might have mentioned before, I have been
                                                            interested in herbal medicine and the use of vitamin supplements for a very long time.
                                                            Unfortunately, I could not find any natural treatment that would have any noticeable
                                                            effect on metastasis or the growth of individual tumours. Although a number of things had
                                                            the theoretical potential to work, my late wife and I found that it was impossible to know
                                                            how much to take of any herb or supplement for it to have an anticancer effect.

                                                            With any treatment, I think that one has to apply strict scientific principles as far as
                                                            evidence goes. Scans are fairly accurate these days, and are the best way to see if any
                                                            treatment is working.

                                                            Take care

                                                            Frank from Australia

                                                            FormerCaregiver
                                                            Participant

                                                              Lisa, I really agree with your comments. As I might have mentioned before, I have been
                                                              interested in herbal medicine and the use of vitamin supplements for a very long time.
                                                              Unfortunately, I could not find any natural treatment that would have any noticeable
                                                              effect on metastasis or the growth of individual tumours. Although a number of things had
                                                              the theoretical potential to work, my late wife and I found that it was impossible to know
                                                              how much to take of any herb or supplement for it to have an anticancer effect.

                                                              With any treatment, I think that one has to apply strict scientific principles as far as
                                                              evidence goes. Scans are fairly accurate these days, and are the best way to see if any
                                                              treatment is working.

                                                              Take care

                                                              Frank from Australia

                                                              lhaley
                                                              Participant

                                                                reread what Manu wrote, she is on Yervoy.   It's easy to say to go to MD Anderson but if you are from another country I can't imagine how expensive it would be unless they have insurance that would cover.  It's also difficult to travel around the world when so ill and then to be away from family and familiar surroundings.  There are many considerations.

                                                                boot2aboot
                                                                Participant

                                                                  jeez Charlie, slow down, the guy is just frantic about his girlfriend…new to the waters and confused…but THERE is ONE point that is a good one you made…Fly to the U.S. go to MD Anderson along with all the medical records….

                                                                   

                                                                  MANU>>>>>I agree with Charlie, stop with the alternative treatments…Find Yervoy NOW whereever you can get it…DO THIS NOW  BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

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