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    _Paul_
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      Today has not been dull. Two hours after my 4 AM infusion I had a reaction. It was intense shivering (rigors) similar to the ones from two days before but this time it was accompanied by what felt like an inability to breathe (Strider).

       
      The trial lead investigator told me one more treatment could kill me. But I had only received 3 bags of IL-2, on top of  low TIL yield. 
       
      It was an agonizing decision to make, since I will die soon without treatment and this looked like my best shot. 
       
      I asked the lead investigator what she would do if she were here in the bed not me and she said that she would go for another infusion.
       
      I finally said go for it, so long as all the countermeasures were in the room first: 50ml Demerol syringes, anaphylactic stuff and steroids.
       
      So then the lead investigator spoke to my regular oncologist. He reminded her that I already have had many immunotherapy treatments which could be causing all kinds of strange reactions. Also I respond very oddly sometimes to immunotherapy such as being one of the first patients to develop type one diabetes in response to ipi.
       
      They said there have been instances at MDA of people completing the first two portions of the treatment but for whatever reason not able to take any of the IL-2, and still have some form of response.
       
      They have to wait for six weeks for the next set of scans because the TIL works slowly and they cannot get any meaningful data until at least six weeks.
       
      Frankly I don't know if I'm going to last six weeks. So now I have to spend time and come up with my best Plan B. So I am going to go back to Celeste's post with the set of links, and Ed's link about with the De. Hamid interview. I need to really get wheels in motion now, not 6 weeks from now.
       
      I will be honest. That breathing thing was the worst experience of my life. And it is a response nobody has seen before. I honestly thought I might die.
       
      But, as you can see that was not the case.
       
      But now I have to recalibrate my personal 1 – 10 pain scale.
       
      When they told me no more bags of IL-2, it was both the best news and the worst news.
       
      Even though things are a bit more dire, I'm not giving up. Life is just too damn awesome to let go easily (although that was not my thinking during the Strider/Rigors combo).
       
      I feel compelled to say this last thing. I am not religious at all. But I believe deeply in God. When asked if I wanted another bag of potentially terminal IL-2 I prayed to God for an answer. Shorty after that was when I received the news that there would be no more IL-2. The need to make a decision was removed, that was his answer.
       
      Sorry for the typos–it's my accursed autocorrect.
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        Bubbles
        Participant

          Oh, sweetie!  I am so sorry for how difficult and scary your day has been.  And there is always my eternal question in relation to my own experience….  "Why in the H@!! does everything have to start/take place at the butt crack of dawn!!!?????"  I mean 0400!!  Really????  I'm even in the profession and I don't get it!!!  Anyhow….hang in there.  Rest up.  I am still betting on those awesome cells.  Big things can come in small packages.  But…we got other plans, too!  If need be!  Take that, melanoma!  Love, c

          Bubbles
          Participant

            Oh, sweetie!  I am so sorry for how difficult and scary your day has been.  And there is always my eternal question in relation to my own experience….  "Why in the H@!! does everything have to start/take place at the butt crack of dawn!!!?????"  I mean 0400!!  Really????  I'm even in the profession and I don't get it!!!  Anyhow….hang in there.  Rest up.  I am still betting on those awesome cells.  Big things can come in small packages.  But…we got other plans, too!  If need be!  Take that, melanoma!  Love, c

            Bubbles
            Participant

              Oh, sweetie!  I am so sorry for how difficult and scary your day has been.  And there is always my eternal question in relation to my own experience….  "Why in the H@!! does everything have to start/take place at the butt crack of dawn!!!?????"  I mean 0400!!  Really????  I'm even in the profession and I don't get it!!!  Anyhow….hang in there.  Rest up.  I am still betting on those awesome cells.  Big things can come in small packages.  But…we got other plans, too!  If need be!  Take that, melanoma!  Love, c

              jennunicorn
              Participant

                Wow, what a friggin day! It's hard to stay positive and have energy to move forward after a day like that, which just shows you're a pretty awesome guy and I am putting tons of positive energy out to you and your cells to kick some serious melanoma @ss!

                 

                jennunicorn
                Participant

                  Wow, what a friggin day! It's hard to stay positive and have energy to move forward after a day like that, which just shows you're a pretty awesome guy and I am putting tons of positive energy out to you and your cells to kick some serious melanoma @ss!

                   

                  jennunicorn
                  Participant

                    Wow, what a friggin day! It's hard to stay positive and have energy to move forward after a day like that, which just shows you're a pretty awesome guy and I am putting tons of positive energy out to you and your cells to kick some serious melanoma @ss!

                     

                    snow white
                    Participant

                      What a scary ordeal.  You are such a strong person, keep living, keep fighting!!!!  We are here with you.  You can beast this out, I know you can!!!!!!

                      xo Jen

                      snow white
                      Participant

                        What a scary ordeal.  You are such a strong person, keep living, keep fighting!!!!  We are here with you.  You can beast this out, I know you can!!!!!!

                        xo Jen

                        snow white
                        Participant

                          What a scary ordeal.  You are such a strong person, keep living, keep fighting!!!!  We are here with you.  You can beast this out, I know you can!!!!!!

                          xo Jen

                          _Paul_
                          Participant

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                            _Paul_
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                              _Paul_
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                                Cindyco
                                Participant

                                  Paul, I am truly so sorry that you are having to go through this.  This was so hard to read because it was so intense and I really don't know what anyone would do if they were put in the position to make that kind of choice.  Stay strong.  I feel really hopeful for you.

                                  Cindyco
                                  Participant

                                    Paul, I am truly so sorry that you are having to go through this.  This was so hard to read because it was so intense and I really don't know what anyone would do if they were put in the position to make that kind of choice.  Stay strong.  I feel really hopeful for you.

                                    Cindyco
                                    Participant

                                      Paul, I am truly so sorry that you are having to go through this.  This was so hard to read because it was so intense and I really don't know what anyone would do if they were put in the position to make that kind of choice.  Stay strong.  I feel really hopeful for you.

                                      Scooby123
                                      Participant

                                        You keep positive and keep kicking Mel Arse . You are a strong person and am praying for good response for you. These treatments do make it hard to cope with but like you said you love life and will not give up. Hope you feel better soon Hun.

                                        scooby X.

                                        Scooby123
                                        Participant

                                          You keep positive and keep kicking Mel Arse . You are a strong person and am praying for good response for you. These treatments do make it hard to cope with but like you said you love life and will not give up. Hope you feel better soon Hun.

                                          scooby X.

                                          Scooby123
                                          Participant

                                            You keep positive and keep kicking Mel Arse . You are a strong person and am praying for good response for you. These treatments do make it hard to cope with but like you said you love life and will not give up. Hope you feel better soon Hun.

                                            scooby X.

                                            maperny
                                            Participant

                                              Hi Paul,

                                              Sorry for the tough time.  Don't worry about either the amount of T-cells (more important is how efficient they are and am sure yours are ninja warriors), secondly don't worry about amount of IL-2.  You have had such a strong reaction as your immune system is fighting so hard, that's a good thing.

                                              Now, your body needs to rest and recuperate and even though it may take a while to see results from scans, there is a big battle going on inside you and your positive mental energy will help!!!  

                                              Stay positive, keep believing.  Hope you can get out of the hospital as soon as possible.

                                              Maria

                                               

                                              maperny
                                              Participant

                                                Hi Paul,

                                                Sorry for the tough time.  Don't worry about either the amount of T-cells (more important is how efficient they are and am sure yours are ninja warriors), secondly don't worry about amount of IL-2.  You have had such a strong reaction as your immune system is fighting so hard, that's a good thing.

                                                Now, your body needs to rest and recuperate and even though it may take a while to see results from scans, there is a big battle going on inside you and your positive mental energy will help!!!  

                                                Stay positive, keep believing.  Hope you can get out of the hospital as soon as possible.

                                                Maria

                                                 

                                                maperny
                                                Participant

                                                  Hi Paul,

                                                  Sorry for the tough time.  Don't worry about either the amount of T-cells (more important is how efficient they are and am sure yours are ninja warriors), secondly don't worry about amount of IL-2.  You have had such a strong reaction as your immune system is fighting so hard, that's a good thing.

                                                  Now, your body needs to rest and recuperate and even though it may take a while to see results from scans, there is a big battle going on inside you and your positive mental energy will help!!!  

                                                  Stay positive, keep believing.  Hope you can get out of the hospital as soon as possible.

                                                  Maria

                                                   

                                                  Patrisa
                                                  Participant

                                                    Crap Paul, didn´t foresee this happening… I˙m sure that it´s scary for anybody, even for a tough guy like you…

                                                    I have no knowledge to lead you towards a smart choice, but can and will be thinking of you, hoping that someting works…. I would put my faith in TIL, this thing has to work for somebody…. But no harm in looking into some other stuff, just to be prepared….

                                                    Hang in there Paul….

                                                     

                                                    Love,

                                                     

                                                    Patrisa

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    Patrisa
                                                    Participant

                                                      Crap Paul, didn´t foresee this happening… I˙m sure that it´s scary for anybody, even for a tough guy like you…

                                                      I have no knowledge to lead you towards a smart choice, but can and will be thinking of you, hoping that someting works…. I would put my faith in TIL, this thing has to work for somebody…. But no harm in looking into some other stuff, just to be prepared….

                                                      Hang in there Paul….

                                                       

                                                      Love,

                                                       

                                                      Patrisa

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      Patrisa
                                                      Participant

                                                        Crap Paul, didn´t foresee this happening… I˙m sure that it´s scary for anybody, even for a tough guy like you…

                                                        I have no knowledge to lead you towards a smart choice, but can and will be thinking of you, hoping that someting works…. I would put my faith in TIL, this thing has to work for somebody…. But no harm in looking into some other stuff, just to be prepared….

                                                        Hang in there Paul….

                                                         

                                                        Love,

                                                         

                                                        Patrisa

                                                         

                                                         

                                                        BrianP
                                                        Participant

                                                          Paul,

                                                          What a day Paul.  Glad you got through the breathing thing.  Don't even want to imagine what that must have been like. 

                                                          I like to imagine what it's going to be like in a few years from now you telling your story.  It is going to be one hell of a memoir.

                                                          I figured with your not so dull day the nurses have gotten a break from your jokes so here's one for them just for you to let them know you still mean business.  What did the nurse say when she found a rectal thermometer in her pocket?      "Some asshole has my pen!"

                                                          Brian

                                                          BrianP
                                                          Participant

                                                            Paul,

                                                            What a day Paul.  Glad you got through the breathing thing.  Don't even want to imagine what that must have been like. 

                                                            I like to imagine what it's going to be like in a few years from now you telling your story.  It is going to be one hell of a memoir.

                                                            I figured with your not so dull day the nurses have gotten a break from your jokes so here's one for them just for you to let them know you still mean business.  What did the nurse say when she found a rectal thermometer in her pocket?      "Some asshole has my pen!"

                                                            Brian

                                                            BrianP
                                                            Participant

                                                              Paul,

                                                              What a day Paul.  Glad you got through the breathing thing.  Don't even want to imagine what that must have been like. 

                                                              I like to imagine what it's going to be like in a few years from now you telling your story.  It is going to be one hell of a memoir.

                                                              I figured with your not so dull day the nurses have gotten a break from your jokes so here's one for them just for you to let them know you still mean business.  What did the nurse say when she found a rectal thermometer in her pocket?      "Some asshole has my pen!"

                                                              Brian

                                                              jbronicki
                                                              Participant

                                                                Holy moly, Intense might be an understatement Paul, but glad to see that you are now on the other side of that experience, can't even begin to imagine…..  I think many of us are like you in that we aren't religious but very aware of some sort of higher power.  I always like George Carlin's imagery of The Big Electron.  So I'm going to be praying to the Big Electron to pull you through this, I'll be praying hard.  many many many prayers Paul.  I agree, Life is too damn awesome.

                                                                jbronicki
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Holy moly, Intense might be an understatement Paul, but glad to see that you are now on the other side of that experience, can't even begin to imagine…..  I think many of us are like you in that we aren't religious but very aware of some sort of higher power.  I always like George Carlin's imagery of The Big Electron.  So I'm going to be praying to the Big Electron to pull you through this, I'll be praying hard.  many many many prayers Paul.  I agree, Life is too damn awesome.

                                                                  jbronicki
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Holy moly, Intense might be an understatement Paul, but glad to see that you are now on the other side of that experience, can't even begin to imagine…..  I think many of us are like you in that we aren't religious but very aware of some sort of higher power.  I always like George Carlin's imagery of The Big Electron.  So I'm going to be praying to the Big Electron to pull you through this, I'll be praying hard.  many many many prayers Paul.  I agree, Life is too damn awesome.

                                                                    keepthefaith11
                                                                    Participant
                                                                      Thinking of you Paul. You are one heck of an inspiration! Keep it comimg!

                                                                      Annie

                                                                      keepthefaith11
                                                                      Participant
                                                                        Thinking of you Paul. You are one heck of an inspiration! Keep it comimg!

                                                                        Annie

                                                                          Mark_DC
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            Am thinking of you and praying for you too. Thanks for writing from the heart and so honestly. Good luck 

                                                                            Mark_DC
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Am thinking of you and praying for you too. Thanks for writing from the heart and so honestly. Good luck 

                                                                              Mark_DC
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Am thinking of you and praying for you too. Thanks for writing from the heart and so honestly. Good luck 

                                                                              keepthefaith11
                                                                              Participant
                                                                                Thinking of you Paul. You are one heck of an inspiration! Keep it comimg!

                                                                                Annie

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