Combatting Nausea

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    _Paul_
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      I will be starting a week of "Lympho-depletion" chemo on Tuesday in preparation to receiving my lab-grown TIL. But throwing up has always been at the top of my least favorite things list. I have some Ondansetron, and I think I heard one of the people on my care team say its ok to double the dose, but even so I suspect I will still be sick. My cast iron stomach is not what it used to be,

      I asked the folks in my cancer survivorship group their thoughts and what I cam away with was CBD capsules. One of the guys there (a very conservative guy) has been on chemo for years, and says the CBD has dramatically improved his quality of life. Apparently the CBD doesn't make one high like normal pot does (very appealing to me). The folks on my care team said pot was ok so long as I didn't smoke it.

      So I am planning on purchasing some CBD capsules.

      Thoughts?

      Thanks – Paul

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        Casitas1
        Participant

          I would recommend CBD/THC. I take just enough to not get that high feeling(takes some experimenting) I started CBD in Jan.2016 on the same day as my first infusion of Pembro. I was about 140lbs and now i am 170 plus. It really helped with the nauseous and appetite + Ned so who knows?

          Best, Paul

          Casitas1
          Participant

            I would recommend CBD/THC. I take just enough to not get that high feeling(takes some experimenting) I started CBD in Jan.2016 on the same day as my first infusion of Pembro. I was about 140lbs and now i am 170 plus. It really helped with the nauseous and appetite + Ned so who knows?

            Best, Paul

            Casitas1
            Participant

              I would recommend CBD/THC. I take just enough to not get that high feeling(takes some experimenting) I started CBD in Jan.2016 on the same day as my first infusion of Pembro. I was about 140lbs and now i am 170 plus. It really helped with the nauseous and appetite + Ned so who knows?

              Best, Paul

              Bubbles
              Participant

                Hey, go for it!  I've always thrown up….no matter what.  No matter the procedure.  No matter the meds given to combat it.  Poor B!!!!  You could give me Sprite just now…and yeah…well….you get the idea.  Hang in there.  Hope it helps!!  celeste

                Bubbles
                Participant

                  Hey, go for it!  I've always thrown up….no matter what.  No matter the procedure.  No matter the meds given to combat it.  Poor B!!!!  You could give me Sprite just now…and yeah…well….you get the idea.  Hang in there.  Hope it helps!!  celeste

                  Bubbles
                  Participant

                    Hey, go for it!  I've always thrown up….no matter what.  No matter the procedure.  No matter the meds given to combat it.  Poor B!!!!  You could give me Sprite just now…and yeah…well….you get the idea.  Hang in there.  Hope it helps!!  celeste

                    jennunicorn
                    Participant

                      Give CBD a try, if I ever need to I would try it in a heartbeat. I am also a person who throws up easily and hate doing it! Most anti-nausea meds don't work on me. CBD will not make you high, it has no hallucinogenic effects, it's strickly used for medical purposes. I have CBD oil that my dad gave me (he's big into the cannabis world) but I haven't had to use it yet.. I'd rather have capsules.. the oil looks pretty gross, hah. Edibles make me nauseous (cannabis put in food, like brownies) so, although it's easier not to smoke, I will warn that edibles could make you nauseous. But, that would also include THC and you'd get the high feeling from it. So, go for the CBD, let me know how it works for the nausea.

                      jennunicorn
                      Participant

                        Give CBD a try, if I ever need to I would try it in a heartbeat. I am also a person who throws up easily and hate doing it! Most anti-nausea meds don't work on me. CBD will not make you high, it has no hallucinogenic effects, it's strickly used for medical purposes. I have CBD oil that my dad gave me (he's big into the cannabis world) but I haven't had to use it yet.. I'd rather have capsules.. the oil looks pretty gross, hah. Edibles make me nauseous (cannabis put in food, like brownies) so, although it's easier not to smoke, I will warn that edibles could make you nauseous. But, that would also include THC and you'd get the high feeling from it. So, go for the CBD, let me know how it works for the nausea.

                        jennunicorn
                        Participant

                          Give CBD a try, if I ever need to I would try it in a heartbeat. I am also a person who throws up easily and hate doing it! Most anti-nausea meds don't work on me. CBD will not make you high, it has no hallucinogenic effects, it's strickly used for medical purposes. I have CBD oil that my dad gave me (he's big into the cannabis world) but I haven't had to use it yet.. I'd rather have capsules.. the oil looks pretty gross, hah. Edibles make me nauseous (cannabis put in food, like brownies) so, although it's easier not to smoke, I will warn that edibles could make you nauseous. But, that would also include THC and you'd get the high feeling from it. So, go for the CBD, let me know how it works for the nausea.

                          _Paul_
                          Participant

                            God Celeste, I don't envy you. And of all things you are a nurse! I hope you are immune to sympathetic barfing. So I did what you all said (thanks Casitas and Jenny) and bought some CBD capsules and some drops too. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow in place of taking my morning ondansetron and I will keep you all posted.

                            – Paul

                            _Paul_
                            Participant

                              God Celeste, I don't envy you. And of all things you are a nurse! I hope you are immune to sympathetic barfing. So I did what you all said (thanks Casitas and Jenny) and bought some CBD capsules and some drops too. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow in place of taking my morning ondansetron and I will keep you all posted.

                              – Paul

                              _Paul_
                              Participant

                                God Celeste, I don't envy you. And of all things you are a nurse! I hope you are immune to sympathetic barfing. So I did what you all said (thanks Casitas and Jenny) and bought some CBD capsules and some drops too. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow in place of taking my morning ondansetron and I will keep you all posted.

                                – Paul

                                Linny
                                Participant

                                  Paul,

                                  Look into the Relief Band. I use it for motion sickness but there's a version of it that's also available for cancer paitients undergoing treatment. I can only speak for the motion sickess version and can tell you that it works very well.

                                  http://www.reliefband.com/medical-professionals/

                                    casagrayson
                                    Participant

                                      And for mild nausea, I've found that eating crystallized ginger really helps!  It's often found in the bulk buying area of large grocery stores.

                                       

                                      _Paul_
                                      Participant

                                        Thanks Susan,

                                        I am going to try that too.

                                        _Paul_
                                        Participant

                                          Thanks Susan,

                                          I am going to try that too.

                                          _Paul_
                                          Participant

                                            Thanks Susan,

                                            I am going to try that too.

                                            casagrayson
                                            Participant

                                              And for mild nausea, I've found that eating crystallized ginger really helps!  It's often found in the bulk buying area of large grocery stores.

                                               

                                              casagrayson
                                              Participant

                                                And for mild nausea, I've found that eating crystallized ginger really helps!  It's often found in the bulk buying area of large grocery stores.

                                                 

                                                _Paul_
                                                Participant

                                                  Linny, Do they have a version for chemo? The link looks like its for chemo, but when I go to the purchase page it asks me if I want it for motion sickness or morning sickness, but not chemo induced nausea.

                                                  Thank you! – Paul

                                                  Linny
                                                  Participant

                                                    The principle behind all of them is the same: they emit a pulse on your wrist that blocks the nausea signal between the brain and the stomach. You can vary the strength of that pulse, which makes it really handy. 

                                                    The product started out as something to relieve chemo-induced nausea. That's what got me interested in it: I figured if it can help chemo patients, it can hep me with motion sickness. I only know of the band for motion sickness and it works well. I loaned it to my sister to deal with post-surgical nausea and saw first hand how fast it worked. She hadn't set the pulse strong enough and was on her way to the toilet to throw up. As she was kneeling, I grabbed her wrist, cranked it up and within the next second she gave me a WTH look, got up and thanked me. I also loaned it to a neighbor to use for chemo nausea and he claimed it helped him as well. So — I'd give the motion sickness one a try, if you're so inclined.

                                                    It can't hurt to try it. And, it won't interfere with any other drugs you may have to take.

                                                    Linny
                                                    Participant

                                                      The principle behind all of them is the same: they emit a pulse on your wrist that blocks the nausea signal between the brain and the stomach. You can vary the strength of that pulse, which makes it really handy. 

                                                      The product started out as something to relieve chemo-induced nausea. That's what got me interested in it: I figured if it can help chemo patients, it can hep me with motion sickness. I only know of the band for motion sickness and it works well. I loaned it to my sister to deal with post-surgical nausea and saw first hand how fast it worked. She hadn't set the pulse strong enough and was on her way to the toilet to throw up. As she was kneeling, I grabbed her wrist, cranked it up and within the next second she gave me a WTH look, got up and thanked me. I also loaned it to a neighbor to use for chemo nausea and he claimed it helped him as well. So — I'd give the motion sickness one a try, if you're so inclined.

                                                      It can't hurt to try it. And, it won't interfere with any other drugs you may have to take.

                                                      _Paul_
                                                      Participant

                                                        Just placed me order on Amazon. Thanks again Linny!

                                                        _Paul_
                                                        Participant

                                                          Just placed me order on Amazon. Thanks again Linny!

                                                          _Paul_
                                                          Participant

                                                            Just placed me order on Amazon. Thanks again Linny!

                                                            Linny
                                                            Participant

                                                              The principle behind all of them is the same: they emit a pulse on your wrist that blocks the nausea signal between the brain and the stomach. You can vary the strength of that pulse, which makes it really handy. 

                                                              The product started out as something to relieve chemo-induced nausea. That's what got me interested in it: I figured if it can help chemo patients, it can hep me with motion sickness. I only know of the band for motion sickness and it works well. I loaned it to my sister to deal with post-surgical nausea and saw first hand how fast it worked. She hadn't set the pulse strong enough and was on her way to the toilet to throw up. As she was kneeling, I grabbed her wrist, cranked it up and within the next second she gave me a WTH look, got up and thanked me. I also loaned it to a neighbor to use for chemo nausea and he claimed it helped him as well. So — I'd give the motion sickness one a try, if you're so inclined.

                                                              It can't hurt to try it. And, it won't interfere with any other drugs you may have to take.

                                                              _Paul_
                                                              Participant

                                                                Linny, Do they have a version for chemo? The link looks like its for chemo, but when I go to the purchase page it asks me if I want it for motion sickness or morning sickness, but not chemo induced nausea.

                                                                Thank you! – Paul

                                                                _Paul_
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Linny, Do they have a version for chemo? The link looks like its for chemo, but when I go to the purchase page it asks me if I want it for motion sickness or morning sickness, but not chemo induced nausea.

                                                                  Thank you! – Paul

                                                                Linny
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Paul,

                                                                  Look into the Relief Band. I use it for motion sickness but there's a version of it that's also available for cancer paitients undergoing treatment. I can only speak for the motion sickess version and can tell you that it works very well.

                                                                  http://www.reliefband.com/medical-professionals/

                                                                  Linny
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Paul,

                                                                    Look into the Relief Band. I use it for motion sickness but there's a version of it that's also available for cancer paitients undergoing treatment. I can only speak for the motion sickess version and can tell you that it works very well.

                                                                    http://www.reliefband.com/medical-professionals/

                                                                    _Paul_
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      So I tried the CBD capsules this morning. I took one, waited an hour, and couldn't feel anything. So I took another and about an hour later I started to feel the effect. But it didn't help my pain, and seemed to have the opposite effect for nausea. I felt bloated for about 3 or 4 hours and it was quite uncomfortable. It did seem to increase my appetite. Each cap was 25mg of CBD and 2.5mg of THC.

                                                                      But I'm glad that I at least tried it first.

                                                                        Casitas1
                                                                        Participant
                                                                          Hey Paul, glad you tryed CBD. If you can keep at one pill for a few days and dose up one pill every few days. Your body has to build up tolerance. Take it slowly also try rubbing it on any subqs you may have. I had same dose as you when I started took a week but tolerated well. Takes a little time to kick in. Best, Paul
                                                                          _Paul_
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            Ah, maybe I overdid it. Thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try and see how it goes.

                                                                            _Paul_
                                                                            Participant

                                                                              Ah, maybe I overdid it. Thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try and see how it goes.

                                                                              _Paul_
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Ah, maybe I overdid it. Thanks for the tip! I'll give that a try and see how it goes.

                                                                                Casitas1
                                                                                Participant
                                                                                  Hey Paul, glad you tryed CBD. If you can keep at one pill for a few days and dose up one pill every few days. Your body has to build up tolerance. Take it slowly also try rubbing it on any subqs you may have. I had same dose as you when I started took a week but tolerated well. Takes a little time to kick in. Best, Paul
                                                                                  Casitas1
                                                                                  Participant
                                                                                    Hey Paul, glad you tryed CBD. If you can keep at one pill for a few days and dose up one pill every few days. Your body has to build up tolerance. Take it slowly also try rubbing it on any subqs you may have. I had same dose as you when I started took a week but tolerated well. Takes a little time to kick in. Best, Paul
                                                                                  _Paul_
                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                    So I tried the CBD capsules this morning. I took one, waited an hour, and couldn't feel anything. So I took another and about an hour later I started to feel the effect. But it didn't help my pain, and seemed to have the opposite effect for nausea. I felt bloated for about 3 or 4 hours and it was quite uncomfortable. It did seem to increase my appetite. Each cap was 25mg of CBD and 2.5mg of THC.

                                                                                    But I'm glad that I at least tried it first.

                                                                                    _Paul_
                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                      So I tried the CBD capsules this morning. I took one, waited an hour, and couldn't feel anything. So I took another and about an hour later I started to feel the effect. But it didn't help my pain, and seemed to have the opposite effect for nausea. I felt bloated for about 3 or 4 hours and it was quite uncomfortable. It did seem to increase my appetite. Each cap was 25mg of CBD and 2.5mg of THC.

                                                                                      But I'm glad that I at least tried it first.

                                                                                      casagrayson
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        Paul, is the Zofran (Ondansetron) the orally disintegrating tablets?  I found that having them dissolve into the bloodstream vs. taking the oral tablets was better; they worked much faster and since they didn't hit the stomach my nausea wasn't aggravated by the meds!

                                                                                         

                                                                                        casagrayson
                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                          Paul, is the Zofran (Ondansetron) the orally disintegrating tablets?  I found that having them dissolve into the bloodstream vs. taking the oral tablets was better; they worked much faster and since they didn't hit the stomach my nausea wasn't aggravated by the meds!

                                                                                           

                                                                                            _Paul_
                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                              Yes, those are the ones. Right now I am taking the 4mg orally dissolving ones. But my care team said they would have me on three different types of anti-nausea meds starting Tuesday. But even with all those meds they said I will still be throwing up. Since I will be on an IV, maybe some of the meds will be delivered that way. I am scheduled to go to "chemo class" tomorrow, so hopefullyI will have a better understanding after that.

                                                                                              – Paul

                                                                                              _Paul_
                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                Yes, those are the ones. Right now I am taking the 4mg orally dissolving ones. But my care team said they would have me on three different types of anti-nausea meds starting Tuesday. But even with all those meds they said I will still be throwing up. Since I will be on an IV, maybe some of the meds will be delivered that way. I am scheduled to go to "chemo class" tomorrow, so hopefullyI will have a better understanding after that.

                                                                                                – Paul

                                                                                                _Paul_
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  Yes, those are the ones. Right now I am taking the 4mg orally dissolving ones. But my care team said they would have me on three different types of anti-nausea meds starting Tuesday. But even with all those meds they said I will still be throwing up. Since I will be on an IV, maybe some of the meds will be delivered that way. I am scheduled to go to "chemo class" tomorrow, so hopefullyI will have a better understanding after that.

                                                                                                  – Paul

                                                                                                casagrayson
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  Paul, is the Zofran (Ondansetron) the orally disintegrating tablets?  I found that having them dissolve into the bloodstream vs. taking the oral tablets was better; they worked much faster and since they didn't hit the stomach my nausea wasn't aggravated by the meds!

                                                                                                   

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